Its not a graveyard of dead bodies, no. But its a graveyard of incidents, promises, student identity, student rights and student dignity. That's what it is. These are all dead here.
Now I'd like to unearth one such "dead" incident which occurred sometime ago.
The Laptop's death!
Of course we don't use our laptops like this dude. But Laptops are indispensable objects in our life. Just like mobile phones. They are small, robust, they add the style factor, and most of them are not sluggish like our college 'high-end' PCs.
Scenario:
Imagine what would you have done about some abstract/project you have to submit an hour from now without a your personalised laptop?
You go to the CC. Switch on a system. "Damn man its Linux" (btw Linux rox). Now you need to edit some content in your flash drive.
Freak:"Dude where are the files in my pen drive?"
Geek:"You need to mount it man."
Freak: "Mount? Wassat??" *Scene Contra*
Lesson learnt: We all love to work in our personalised zones.
Laptop has become our identity and our best buddy. What's the point of having 2Mbps Wi-Fi if no one had a laptop. For kicks?
So this small buddy of ours gives us so much power in our finger tips, flexibility so who in their right minds would want to separate our dearest buddy from us?
And in a society which is at its verge of implementing OLPC in schools we have a Laptop Ban in a technical college?? Are we evolving backwards?
Story:
Not so long ago, in the age of tyranny of Hitler a.k.a Smokey, an innocent guy was using his lappy during a free period. It was a free period and as all free periods are devoid of silence or in other words from some eminent people in our college, the class was a market ! Smokey supposedly was around went into the market and saw our hero with his laptop.
Smokey: Who gave you permission to use a laptop in MY college?Hero: brrrrr...Somkey: What great Doctrine you want to gain by using laptop in class? Cant you read your text books??Hero: brr....Smokey: What? How much electricity is being wasted, do you have any idea? How much Wi-Fi is being sucked up? How much cash can go into my pocket if you all tech idiots stopped bringing this stupid box to college, do you have any idea??Hero: bbrrrr...Smokey: SHUT UP!!Hero: .............*Scene DPK*
The rest as we all know is the infamous laptop rule: no student is allowed to use his/her laptop inside college premises without a permission from the Headless guy of the department and the Principal. The incident was an instant talk all over the college. Refinement after refinement, which our teachers are experts in doing (refining a simple story into an action packed 2 hr bollywood movie), when the story was re-told our hero was supposedly watching a movie in the class.
Oh! by the way our TECHIP aided college also has laptops. Now that's a relief. So how do we get to use this "boon"? Go request it via the class advisor (yea the one who rings your parents) to the college office. So after some days you get the permission to use the thing* (* conditions apply).
Woah! Its a beast man. Core duo, 256MB RAM (!!), 80GB HDD.(seriously?)
The instant access to Internet, the REAL source of knowledge (which is forbidden by our syllabus in the first place) is being deprived to us by this rule.
When even the supreme court is digitalising, our college gets a Laptop Ban. And we dream about competing with the IITs.
Where do you see the "technical excellence" that we are supposed to be receiving here.
After two days of cursing each other, the teachers, Smokey and his great grandfathers, this incident dies as we fall busy into the rat race that we call life. Did we do anything about it. Who cares man? Wait we forgot the college senate. We could have represented the issue through the official "management body" of the college in front of the teachers. Man, the next senate meeting is after the next senate election. Perfect! Senate meetings are like Arts and Sports. Once in an academic year.
So our Hero licks Smokey's feet and also all the feet of other teachers in our college, gets his laptop back after a week or so. Did any senate/student body help our Hero? (Man he is the hero, he doesn't need help ) Its his problem and we don't want to get wet in it, right?
So what do we get an idea about ourselves from this incident?
We are all Heroes in our college. But when the 'smoke' blows at your face our feet trembles. Why?
Think about it...
Until then lets all stand in queues for the autographs of our HODs and teacher. Its a rare opportunity fellows. We are blessed.

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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 232 Newer› Newest»Nice one... What about moblile phone inside MEC???
yup man this is exactly wot happens in our college..student protests are like a one man fight back ..crap...
And i dont think you can blame the senate for this , cos as you said the senate meetings are like arts or sports which happens once in an academic year..
Wow is the word. Good going, bro. Even tho I am not an MECian, I share your pain :)
we have to do something to get rid of this sucking situation...isnt it..?
Gud goin dude... Seriously.. It seriously is not fair to ban the laptops from coll.. Even vn i was in coll, tht's 2003-07, most of the stuff used to be done on the lappy only.. Last minute assignment updation, report makin, presentations n yeah some geeks used to use it to study too.. We might as well use laptop during free hours from coll to finish our work than scoot to our respective hostels during those free hours n end up losing track of time or gettin too lazy to get back to class n miss classes n those precious ticks in the attendance sheets. This prob's more so for the day-scholars n gals whose hostel's r not as close to the coll as the MH is. I honestly don't think it's practical to take the long walk back to hostel(ie during free hours/lunch breaks ) n get back to coll 4 the next hour n still manage to make some decent progress on their work. N in these times of every1 goin all out online/laptop/tablet pc n all, i guess it'd be wrong to ban lappies altogether.
But i guess the main point FOR the ban'd be using laptop's 4 activities other than studies. Honestly, we all know we'l do our assignments/reports/presentations during most of the free hours but thr'r times occassionally vn v'l watch a movie or Tv series from class. N i guess tht's wt "Smokey" is tryin to stop.. N also the use of wifi to download movies(which the lads in mh can do anyways). Anyways, the vice against which the ban is prevalent is the use of lappies for entertainment/fun stuff. But This definitely'l hinder progress in terms of our work since it's not practical to ask hod/princi everytime u'r on a tight schedule n want to bring the lappie to coll to finish off work. U might as well walk back to ur hostels n do it.. Tht'l be less time consuming than tryin to appease the hod's n waitin outside the principal's rooms 4 his meetings to get done..n yeah gettin the autographs too.. Vn hod's on leave n the staff themselves'r not sure who else's authorised to give the signoff..
If some students protest against any issue in colg they are treated as traitors by some OTHER STUDENTS(who wants to be machans of the colg by lickin Smooky and his company's feet)...And they spread stories like these people(students) destroyed the future of MEC/juniors...THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM IN OUR COLG
Use comments as a place to give suggestions and say our problems... not to blame others. This is an initiative to involve all of us to stand 4 our needs.. :D
dear frnd, ur blog is a gud read,really funny. but if its a change ur tryin to make,im sorry mate, ur goin to be disappointed. thr have been many initiatives taken in the past also to address the so-called students probs, but most of them end up as a one man show. the main prob is the students themselves, though they initially speak in support of u,later on realize tat they r in MEC for academic benefits n a well paid job,in short thr r many chatur ramalingams(courtesy:3 idiots) in MEC.
anyway thumbs up to the initiative.u write so well,keep up the gud work..
Kidu...
There are some things which money cant buy (you know ;)). For everything else there is TEQIP fund !!
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u r not fake man..u r the damn original mecian.!
he is the real mecian but will smoke key allow him if he sees his pants again[:P]
Dude.. i like ur way of expressing the situation. I too felt the pain of that bugger,though I respect him for his age and the profession he gets paid for.
Its a catch-22 situation for the student. The initiative to loosen up the rules must come from all the students,and get the support of the staff as well. Using force won't help. Be coercive and let the Smokey see some benefit in our needs ( i donno if money is the only thing that moves him )
hope our teachers...n smokey is goin to see.... ths kinda protests are awesome.... n bt guess smokey has no shame ....!! :((
Oh cmon.... wtf is this gonna do ??? :O...
1) The senate can call a meting whenever they want. SO TALK TO THEM !!! (if they are intereseted)
2) Instead of jst typing this here, do something bout it !!! This way not a way of "expressing" urself.... coz it aint gonna do any good.
Well, atleast someone took some initiative. Good goin :)
This is simply mind blowing dude... Go on!
I would like to add one more thing!
By the rules of Smokey... if any project group needs lappy from the college then they would need to deposit Rs 1000/- per head and that they wil be completely responsible for that crap untill they return it!!! And mind you its been many bluemoons since its warranty has expired! #desp
excellent work
Excellent piece on MEC!
I suggest you include smoky's performance on stage for infy or wipro was it??
Wonder how Dr.smoky is gona react to this!!
Ban blogspot???
Stop bloggers from participating in college activity?
Summoning bloggers' parents to college( sorry, school)?
Don't worry smoky n co.(especially laughy) wont understand a word of this.
Dude! there is a culture that MEC follows! To get it going there are certain things that we have to do! Licking the feet goes one (as we have no oter go)
And i understand that ur comment is the result of the recent BOYCOTT drama! And FYI it entertained "more of the F*****G lickin".
This is what is known as MEC..!! There is an invisible spirit wandering around in MEC corridors to find out the odd ones who raise their voice in opposition. The ones who defies the rules have always been treated as 'extra-terrestrials'..
What can be done is:
1. Organize an open-house/townhall meeting with all stakeholders invited. **Important** This should be done during class hours. Debate without fear and see if issue gets resolved or not.
2. If #1 did not work, Organize yourselves, raise the voice, Re-invent the power of Student Unity. That means break the rule !!!
3. You guys sit together and talk about a way forward. There might be some elements of genuineness behind the motives, I guess. Think about how a regulation can be brought in instead of a ban. This regulation if it comes from within the student community as a result of consensus will be the most effective one.
I still remember the open debate conducted in 2003 regarding the TECHIP funding issues.
Appreciate the initiative. I wonder if some REAL_MEC blog will come up or not. Perhaps there might be one.. Thumb rule is speak out and organize...
may be you people got to know his response. in simple malayalam, 'angaadiyil thottathinu ammayod'. pathetic first year screwed and their mobiles looted.... great going mr. smokey, its not simply a smoke, but a volcano........
Its gud readin....
Pinne switchg of cheytha mobiles bagukalil ninnu eduthukondu pokunnathu oru tharam sadysm alle...
no its simply theft.... rite...
anybody dare to complain...
anybody dare to ring back by der parents?
(evrytime smokey rings them rite)
potte first years alle...
ennal girls enthinanu pocketsil ninnum phone eduthu koduthathu?...
(addeham ningalude pocketil kayyidumennu pedicho?)
kollam.....
ny ways gud luck....
stand up...
respect THEM...
pls dont fear THEM....
A few months back , probably a year back I saw a circular from CUSAT snuggly hidden away amongst a bunch of other papers which said that "camera mobiles" were in the campus it clearly went on to say that "non camera mobiles" were allowed provided that they be kept switched off in classrooms.Now who is "smokey" to bend rules , claiming mobiles are totally banned in the campus , running the college like his fiefdom? He is nothing more than a short sighted feudal chatambi.There are so many more important issues like having power backup in the labs , getting rid of guest lecturers who know nothing , making sure we have access to portals like ieee, acm etc ( btw our acm account has expired & nobody has bothered to do anything about it ) , computerising the library etc, than going around making sure the students are in uniform & dont use mobiles. Who the fuck does prof Dr SureshKumar P think he is ? Everybody is accountable .Nobody is absolute .
btw , one of my teachers ( a senior in her department )said in class that she personally did not believe in Banning mobile phones & strict adherence to the unifrom.
Yea...well said...Ippol MEC oru schoolinte set up lekku kondu varaanulla thaady yude sramam anu nadakkunnathu...Pinne 1st year classukalile mobile phone pidichathine patti...Oru matiri full time phone pidichondu nadakkana teachers anu pillare kaliyakkunnathu...Class time il call attend cheyyunna teachers ne ethu pole kuttikalum purathaakkanam....
MEC office...thonnumbol chaya kudikkanum unnanum uranganum pokunna typical govt sthapanam...3 mani vare job...pinne office avarude makkalkkum kochumakkalkkum computer game kalikkanulla oru game station anu...gents toilet il Cigaret kuttikal kanam...enthayalum students athraykku ahankaram kanikkilla...Ethokke adyam nannakkanam...allandu angadiyil thottathinu ammayodu enna pole pillarude mekkittu kerittu karyam undo?? Toiletil cup illa pakshe aayirangal mudakki kanda palarkkum evde seminar enna peril parippuvadayum chayayum kodukkum...Seminar edukkunnathu evduthe guest kal allenkil kuttikal...
Yeah all are aware of the facts!
Solution?
Any revolt? If its so, this will reach a conclusion(rather situation or is it the other way around) wherein people will be spotted out! (remains to been seen how many) and once they are out of the scene, the so called "mob" will retrace!!
Culture of MEC!
Laptop and mobile banning etc are just the tip of the iceberg, much more deeper issues are plaguing the college
1. People these days are too bothered about their internal marks and hence prefer saponifying their teachers to any extent and most people dont even cut classes these days, earlier there was the freedom to bunk, hence mecians explored their talents freely, be it tech, arts whatever.
2. Inflexible library and computer centre timings.
3. Class notes as assignments.
4. Second series, there never used to be one in those good olden days..
5. Majority of mecians are not updated on latest technological trends and general topics.
6. and where is social life in this campus, its dead.
7. lack of guts is widely spread and so people dont speak up anywhere, most of us remaing anonymous even in blogs :)... people prefer going by the flow.
8. Ineffecient office staff not that the teaching staff is good..
and for those sick of smokey the next govt in power would hopefully chuck out our red smokey to some remote place..
Taking stuffs from a persons bag when he/she is not knowing it is robbing...its just too bad...
I think he is targeting juniors so as to make them bone less!!!if the situation continues they will finally accept it as their situation and would continue to live in it...
In future what we will come out of coll is some stupid book worms who may have marks but would be fools mostly if this continues...
Something needs to be done to prevent this from happening..What we can do is just a question tat is seeking an answer...
ALL THAT HAPPENS NOW AT MEC IS shit. can u believe that lakhs of rupees spent over some seminars(?). look here.
all the money goes to teachers(y i still call them teachers?) and THADI and others.
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?uid=17529851590176319748
n its sad to see that there still are a**holes among us at college who believe fakemecian is digging student freedom's graveyard. Gutless pricks should at least keep their bloody mouths shut.
College is a place where :
1) Students get to improve themselves both technically and otherwise.
2) Perhaps the only place where u get to test your managerial skills at least risk.
3) Get to try ur ideas free of risk, and at the peak of ur ability.
4) Learn something from the elder teaching staff about life and in general.
And Model Engineering College is :
1) where students are not allowed to bring laptops, least encouraged to go for an arts/sports/technical fests (CS dept. is the only exception).
2) School where teachers get to work on their managerial side and try their hand at everything alien.
3) where there is a curfew to students being together after 5:30, and students get less than one hr to be together after class at the cost of an evening tea.
4) where there are Doctorate holders who cant speak a line in english, egoistic savage creatures who'll muddle with anyone's life to satisfy their egos.
and where there are students who will sit and bear with all this and not do anything about it in fear of them losing out in their lives...
Cmon guys!! This is your life!!
anyone pls copy the pics. they might be deleted soon. but he has the original with him, SAFE!!!
bring out all wrongs in MEC...
"egoistic savage creatures"???
sounds like a serious case of personal vengence...
Whatever or whoever that person in question might be,this is NOT the way you refer to anyone in a public medium like this....The person who wrote that obviously does not bother much for a proper code of conduct,then how does he expect himselves to be treated well???
I expected this blog to be an honest attempt,at least to a certain extent,to address the genuine
issues of students and i agree there are many.But war cries and abusive language just do not make you brave.And the Idea that anybody who
does not agree with the general sentiment of hatered is bootlicking and spineless totally surprises me.Protest against what you have to but have some benchmark standard of your own.
And as we hear everyday in our classes,ideal cases are impossible.That is exactly what makes everything in life go on-the small 'errors'.
We would rather analyze how much is possible in reality,and think before we swear.
There you go... I know you guyz are just calling me those names.. ya-spineless,boneless(as if i were chicken)..et al.
As for my complaints,they hav nothing to do with a laptop or mobile phone.. The PCB fab here has not been working for two years(as far as I know),due to damage to some relatively minor part.
And of course test lab or library is not always open long enough...And so on.While it may be possible to solve some issues,it may not be possible for others.Analyzing the situation and trying to overcome it to the best of your abilities is sometimes the best option.
Also consider whatever is being offered to you i n the college.Do you make use of all that is available to you?How many people actually make use of the fact that IEEE papers are freely downloadable on college wifi(You have to register with IEEE and pay a membership fee to get a login ID otherwise)??
I really would appreciate this blog(and of course,the comments)much more if this would as much cease to be so emotional and rely more on facts.
I feel very disappointed at the fact that anyone who doesnt go with the flow of hatred, that is all over the comments page, is considered to be a gutless prick.
It is even more saddening to hear that our friend, hasn't been able to go for many techfests, but at the same time i do not think that doctorates in MEC will be any worse than those of other colleges.If the original poster believes it seriously, then I feel he is just another douche bag, who believes in Utopian college campuses, being the centres of so-called excellence, and overall development ,and also MIT level doctorates, who might even propose new theories of their own(which in our case too,we do get very often).Also with CUSAT's 75% minimum attendance requirements, many do get good managerial training.
To actually expect to learn some life lessons from teachers, is a little too optimistic, as they come to teach the subject and not life.I would rather have faculty who teach the subject better than give me great life lessons.
There are issues that need to be addressed in the college(every institution has issues), but addressing them through a blog (which might remain the hot topic for a few days) ,or a unorganised boycott/protest out of the blue doesnt help.Every problem has a solution which does not hurt.The bravery of a person is not measured by the noise and, in some cases, reckless actions that he makes, rather by the decisions that he can make within the certain situation.Insulting faculty/students, and mocking them about their incapability/apathy does not generate any postive changes.
The thought of having a Serpico in our college is definitely amusing, but then displaying the proposals for some events is stepping way out of line.These documents are only proposals, and not final receipts/bills, in which case the displaying of these document were totally unwanted and unnecessary.The post with "Bring out all wrongs in MEC", a very funny one-liner, makes one feel that the faculty are actually on a manhunt to bring the fake.mecian to their apparently perverse and corrupt "justice".It would be an ideal movie plot, but as response to a blog of this nature it sounds way too corny.
I definitely would like to see the libraries and computer centers open into late evenings, as it would be very useful for the students.I also would like to see a lesser number of teachers for the same subject.
I really do hope that this blog treats matters of this kind with a gentle firmness and not a farce crassness.
Best Of Luck with the rest of the active blogging
yeea man this totally sucks and everytime smokey's kids need a gizmo there you have a new rule never heard of even in schools.and the funniest part is nobody gets to know abt the rules until they get caught..its like the rule gets effective once the first student gets caught..smokey must be definitely said he cant get his hands on any expensive sets
As for Sabarinath U's observation that , u can download Ieee papers , it almost sounds like he hasnt used it . Firstly there are only a few slots available ,I believe less than five .So u end up waiting all day , just to get that 1 paper.Secondly the hardware that was installed in the library to facililate the same is absolutely useless, unuseable & is a colossal waste , thirdly our subscription to acm has expired and nobody bothers to do anything about it.Till recently the bandwidth available on the free wifi was pathetic , it still is & hardly anyone uses it (though it is better) . I also doubt as to waht use the newly built bike park is for ? When i enquired abt the computerisation of the library , I was told ther was sum problem with implementing "KOHA" is ther no faculty , anybody who can sort things out ? Then ther is this all important Principal's personal securrity to whom I had to actually explain in explict detail as to why i am here to meet "Smokey"
office timing is unrealistic. They, watching some students coming to , say pay fee, tell that office is closed at noon 12.00 and ask them to come the next day.
One of my teachers had recently bought a new high-end mobile and is really a show-off in class, particularly that day, when smoky came for raid.Calling and msging many times while taking class. Why are we bearing such atrocities?
why college security closes all the gates and locks it, while its about 9.30 in morning. cant they wait for late people to come in? And the gate remain closed all through the day. At lunch break, we have to wait for them to to come and open gates for us to go out. Is this kind of jail or something? And what is the problem with the security in parking bikes inside campus? We are not allowed to take it out during class times.
Not for the sake of argument,but I never had any problems getting the papers,and certainly some friends of mine use it more frequently than I do.And none of them ever had any issue as far as i know.The rest ,I agree they are genuine concerns if true,and that i have never denied the existance of those issues.As I said before even I have a lot of disagreement with college policies.
But that certainly does not mean i have to forget something called basic civility when protesting.My entire point was that swearing anonymously in a blog is not a soluton to whatever problems we might have.
Its easy to say we dont have KOHA we dont have pcb fab and all that, why wait for faculty to fix it?? Why don't you take the initiative ( and you needn't be a senator to do that) to bring the changes you wish to see around, start working in that direction then only you will truly realize how sick MEC is, its not easy to work for a good cause with so many morons and devils around.
Regarding IEEE and ACM, how many of us are geniunely interested in all this? Whenever a meeting has been called for,hardly any of the chaps in the organisation turn up. Its not the case of just IEEE or ACM, its the case of almost each and every organisation in this college. Even if we do come together its just for the sake of meeting up and deciding who is going the chairman, the treasurer etc etc of that particular org. After that parti meeting, its almost like everyone goes into some kind of hibernation. Obviously there are some exceptions. Making an accusation is pretty simple but then doing something about it is not.
Regarding the mobile issue, when there is a clear high court order stating that mobile phones are to be banned in campuses who are we to go questioning these orders? With respect to the friend who wrote about the CUSAT circular being kept away from students sight, I would like to ask him which mobile phone he has got, and the same to almost everyone who is reading this post now.Hardly 1 in 10 persons would have a non camera mobile phone and hardly another 1 in 20 would care to keep our mobile phones snucked away in our bags in colleges(as far as hostelers are concerned we dont have bags do we?:P) then what is the point of making such wild statements? Yes, obviously when it comes to the privacy part, I do agree with the rest of you, it is something one should keep our hands away from.
And regarding the Hero (the lappy hero) I know him personally and I assure he was doing definitely not doing something like project or anything with academic value when he was caught on that infamous day.
Saying something impulsively or doing something out of emotions is not the need of the hour, think about it, make the call valid, something foolproof for then and only then will the whole of MEC will be together for some or the other issue because, I personally dont seem to be too much moved with the posts of fakemecian. How much we might dislike THE GUY he still has a point or two valid in his kitty, and hence he can puncture a lot of holes in our theory when he wants to!
cool dude..........
Class Hours il mobile use cheythathu thettanu...Pakshe High court paranjirikkunnathu Camera phones public ayi college il use cheyyaruthennanu. Allandu off cheytha mobile eduthondu pokunnathu thenditharam anu...innu mobile oru ozhichu koottanavatha vasthu anu...Kodathy athu sammathichathum anu...BSNL vare students nu offer kodukkunnundallo???
Pinne Circular onnum erakkarillallo,ethineyokke patti...18 vayasa kuttikalkku gate adachittu cls edukkenda gathikedulla oru govt college lokathil veroridathum kanilla...
Clubs n Association- 1st yr il njangal NSS nte peru paranju meeting nu chennu. Annu In charge arunna sir paranju,fund illa ethu sarkar sthapanam anu...oru matiri mudanthan nyayangal...avasanam parayuva namukku NSS nte care off il oru cleaning program nadathikkoodennu....engane thalparyam illatha aalukal entinu ee club um pidichirikkunnu...kuttikalkku vittu koduthoode???
Regarding what vinu p said :
1.) It is not about how amny people are interested in acm or ieee that matters for the college to provide us a usable account . If that were the argument then the refernce section that is always empty , should be got rid off , a handful of the thousand strong student contingent uses it , by extension we harldy ever listen to any of our teachers , should they be got rid too ? or should they be never given any importance .
We dont have an acm chapter here in mec , there are a lot of us who want to access high quality papers , me included.
Now something valid & not impulsive , thanks to smokey after who downgraded the Internet link to the college nobody could do anything worthwhile on the internet ,almost every one in the CS department , which I know for a fact , felt it was stupid & irrational .
If this is not enough , the guy who claims to be doing all the right things took 2 1/2 years to have power backup installed in the CC . I had one of my external lab exams postponed thanks to 2 consecutive power failures.
As for using non camera mobile phones , it hadrly costs less than 1500 Rs to get one and most plp have a spare mobile.Lets not try to justify one of the most short sighted morons in mec's history. Never before have we had a principal who has produced no academic output whatsoever since he's taken over.
It goes without saying that for an institution with a post graduate program we have had no technical symposium or talk , except during excel .It is pathetic & is solely due to the apathy of the people in charge( Smokey).
He is a principle who is never a part of any event that is conducted in the college. He has only tried to create roadblocks when ever an event is organised.
If hope atleast this convinces the likes of "Vinu P" , I am not trying to be confrontational I just hope people are better informed.
There is a war going on in the sidewalk here. Sabarinath and Tibu, you find the blogger inapropriate or the anonymous commenter because i dint find any war cries in the blog other than a the quote by 'V' :D
we need a stir like this once in a while. to know where we stand and what we are loosing...
Guys, what we can do against all this? We have following ways
1. Strike: MECians who dont have guts will not come up in supportive. People actually worry abt their attendance (it may reduce from 92% to 90%), internal marks. or when Smokey says "u all will be suspended", everyone goes to class. Its not working out. Moreover, after anything like this sort, no more excel, no more technoprenuer, no el juege, no arts, no sports. WHO WILL HAVE GUTS? to reduce MEC to grave is what he want. We'll be like giving him an oppurtunity to do so.
2. Talk sense to smokey: Everyone knws its not possible. :)
3. Hide and Seek: Like this blog, anyone can talk, but noone will do anything. Its coz they fear that finally those people who took the initiative will hang.(it is what is going to happen anyway)
4. Do nothing, why sud i bother: This is what we see all these days. "its not my problem, y sud i bother?". noone seems to think that when something problem will come to me, noone will care.
among 1000 students, dont think 500 will be interested in a talk or conference or tech-meeting or even arts and sports. ppl are different, but there will be some. expect some 10 interested students in any field. MACS has many members(active) and they regularly interact with each other, though mostly informally it helps all of them(us)technically and socially.Mixed sgnlas is not that active. I dont know about biomed association.(thechathalla, truly i dont know) Same case with YI, House meeting, Excel meeting and all things. These things are going on just bcoz there are atleast a handful, who are intersted and active.
See mobile pone issue is a broader issue. It has both sides, to talk about. The thing is that, if smokey had took away mine, I would definitely rase my voice(in blog). Otherwise i may(not). Try mini project, an intra-voice transfer system, instead of mobile, to be used in college.
CC usually is open till 5.30 or 6.oo. If it were in morning too, then that issue would be solved.
Go use the reference section in library.
See, the college excels in 90% cases due to a few ppl who head events at college(i dont mean smokey, but students).So, dont go satisfy all the multitude. Working in groups is difficult. But pacify the leader, the rest is easily handled.
If u say that raising voice(characters) in blog won't help soving such problem, than suggest a better one. See, we all are technical students. Go for an innovative measure(like this). Who knows, once this silent movement may replace smokey from MEC principlaship???I know what will follow.........
www.mec.ac.in/fakemecian
Hoping for that great day!!!
I salute the author of the blog.
better use CHATAMBI instead of smokey....dat suits him most
Hey , whats happening here is the infringement of our personal rights , lets not get frenzied & start doing crazy things ,lets maintain the decourm.We need to ask for our rights , lets do that , let our voices get louder. Down with the dictator , Death to the dictator
http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&ved=0CBYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nitc.ac.in%2Fnitc%2Facademic%2FStudents_code_9th_Octo_07.pdf&ei=8BZrS-7zFY2TkAXfnvj0Aw&usg=AFQjCNE-gllgujWuZ0z7uVhlbes9wAy2xw&sig2=dt5iedW40c0HrUbKAo8Gxg
It mentions abt not using the mobile phones in classrooms , exam halls etc , but goes on to say they may be used judiciously
http://www.cusat.ac.in/students/students_code_05.pdf
This is the one frm cusat , it only says students are prohibited from "Using Mobile phone during class hours/office hours in Administrative Office/Departments/Schools."(page 6)It clearly does not say mobile phones are banned.
Some comments are deleted to maintain the integrity of the blog and for the safety of the ones who posted it.
This blog was begun with a mission to help students voice their opinions. A platform for MEC to think together to make SOLUTIONS. Please keep that in mind when you read he posts and also when you comment.
The posts have humour content. But mind you facts were never compromised even for once.
While you enjoy the humour in them please do THINK ABOUT IT .
good morning, guys. shall we continue to smoke smokey???
55 comments so far...!! y cant u all gather up and hold a meeting and show ur protest??
typing ur suggestions here doesnt do any good.
last yr the whole final years had gone for protest when that f***kr tried to screw up the senate elections. There is no point in saying that showing protest is not going to help. If you got a valid point and have enough courage to shout those things to the smokey you can make difference.
Hope there are still 'real' boys and girls studying in MEC ....
mind glowing....
pl go in depth....
u can find so many funny things.....
expose......and expel the smokey....
congrads fake
machu kidu................
Congrats buddy you have done something worth of thinking. But i am afraid how this will help you guys to work around the situation. Raising the voice or holding a meeting would be the best option if the person sitting in the chair did had sense(common). Its a mere waste to do this (many has tried).
What i feel is to send an open letter to the smoky & co (don't know whether he checks the mails) stating what you guys feel in a polite and respective manner copying all the mecians & xmecians (send a mail to xmec groups). I think xmecians(atleast 2009 & 2008 passouts who understand the real situation) will be able to continue the mail thread since they don't bother about the actions (i know its difficult for you guys to raise voice --- he may screw you up with internal marks or some thing similar to that)
once again good work fakemecian...........
honestly my salutes to you...
i was late to know about this blog but as it is told "better late than never"....
I have never come to respect this bl***y princy for the person he is....an a**hole with no humbleness or personality fit for a proncipal...is he a principal for the students at all...for any and all events he only knows to put blockades...going to his office to meet him is like an infinte wait...first that security in front and then after princy has his time making us wait we have to listen to his "CHORI"...Try to conduct an event...then you will know wat tht fkr is.....i still have gud time cutting my class and will do it for ever till i get out of this college...breaking rulz so tht i will continue loving MEC....MEC is the best....i owe my love for MEC to our passouts and present seniors for having passed it down to us..let the spirit of MEC live on....i shall too pass it on to my juniors....and advice to all the rest of you...live out of your books please...books and marks ain't life....discover that life and spirit of MEC...plz
hey internet is a free world. abuse and 4 letter words are freely thrown about. bt please reflect for a second wht benefit is brought abt by the abuses tht u heap on ur teachers.
(a teacher who happened to read it and is literate enough to understand some of the posts, and pained by some.)
ok....it may be abuse at times...but we are not let to speak out....everyone says mec is best....but at times we feel it worst to be out there....it would b nice if something reallly happened after this ........
(a student had to read this for the sake of mec,who has just started to swim the river)
wait a sec. MEC nowadays has gates which are locked during class hours ?!! what has happened to my college ?
xmecian ('02-CE)
it is one thing to post your grievances and even discuss how to adress them, and another to use abusive language while talking about your teachers, whoever they are or whatever you believe they have done.
A concerned parent.
these days the college has a rolling shutter in the main entrance, by the water cooler, which is half closed most of the time. soon, we will be inside the closed shutters from 9 to 4 all days. and the gates are locked up by security creatures sharp at 9.30. and we have to ait for them to open at lunch time. also similar case with MH gate. This is jail now, ofcourse.
anyone tried mailing the link of this blog to smokey??? (it easy to create an anonymous mail id, right?)
Hey.....u always been critisizing dese guys.... the faculty...did u ever think wots d real problem of mec nd mecians.It's jus d students of mec..the gr8 mecians..dey r born 2 liv under restrictions ..wotever d staff say dey don't react..just dey wil talk 2 each odr abt dis scene contra or desp scene wotever it is...no body ever reacts...if dere r a few d odrs doesn't support since dey don't want 2 get into trouble...actually acordin 2 me
Mec Boys can be divided into
90% kozhis
5% padippists
4% madyapanis
1% machans
nd girls r all d same just bitches
wenevr mec get rid of dese kozhis it could offer d new comin students a real college lyf..not dis smokey or wotever...if one hitler goes od rises...nly students as a whole reacts den nly v can njoy lyf in college...
dese staffs impose new rules 2 1st years ....y?
lyk id card,mobil raid...bcoz dey dont knw wot a coll is and wot can dey do since dey r cmng frm a skul nd it's lyk dey r stil in a skul...dey dont hav ny differnce...
2 fakemecian....
u too can't react dat's y u r hidin in dim light...writin a blog ryt?
But I wish u 2 get a scene CONTRA everyday so dat
u write ur blog....aftrall its MEC u wil get it...
:D
By
ABC
Hello Mr. V
My self Biju faculty member of MCE …. Just happed to know about this blog. I think u know that I have been in charge of the college senate last year ( now I am undergoing my P.G on deputation) . I think I have responsibility to correct lot of mistakes u and your followers written here……..
Let me start one by one
1.) There is absolutely no barn on using laptops inside MEC campus . U know I had conducted lot of classes allowing students to use their lap tops along with me in hands on class room sessions. We allows students to bring their lap tops to the labs and do their lab works in their own lap tops on regular lab time… ….. then what is the problem? .. the only thing is u have to get the permission either from the staff in charge or from the faculty member who conduct the class. The students of final years (those who have project seminar etc ) are allowed to bring their lap tops with the prior permission from the staff in charges and are allowed to connect to the campus WiFi connection … u know that??????.. ….. so my dear student , if u have a genuine reason for using lap top then u can contact u r staff in charge then with permission u can use it….. let me ask u …did u ever approached u r faculty in charge for access permission?????? ….. if u r honest …I know the answer will be a “BIG …NO”
2.) About mobile phone usage inside campus: Hon’ High court of kerala had issued an order ( I don’t know the order no . exactly) preventing the usage of mobile phone inside educational institutions. As per the directions of that order Govt. of Kerala had issued another order ( A government G.O , signed by kerala educational secretary , if u want will get the copy of that order from our college office) which has been circulated among the faculty members , and clearly preventing the usage of mobile phone inside campus. And that order asks the head of the institution to from a squad for checking students regularly their bags or belongings for mobile phone (any kind of mobile phone, whether it is camera phone or not ) and if found collect and keep them in the office ( guys … we are not taking u r phones for our kids ……. so called collected phone’s details are entered in the stock register and after dismantling its battery keeping them in a shelf with tagged stoke details …that is what happening … as per that order u have right to collect that phone after completing the course….i don’t know at that time it will be useful or not… any way that is what happening to your phones )
just continuing b'cos of the word count limit
Now just come to the realities ….. what is the provocation for that massive raid ???
That first year student used mobile phone while the class is going on … and u know ,that too in class handled by most respected and most experienced faculty member . As I know this student is even not ready to accept that mistake and resisted physically to hand over the phone. A gifted teacher whose students are now working in reputed posts all over the globe…. It is for the first time that teacher with more than 50 years of experience felt such an insult. And u know Mr. V, I feel that, this insult is the shame on the entire student community of M.E.C . But unfortunately u guys don’t felt any regret. …… is the element of respect is that low in your blood?.
Now the reality about the lap top: … This student bunked his class and stayed back in the hostel (without any physical fitness problem) . When Principal came for inspection this guy is watching ‘some thing ‘that is nothing related to his academic work …. So what should the principal has to do?? Congratulate this kid for bunking class and watch the rest of the movie along with him??? Ah??.....
My dear students …. I have baby girl of age one and half .. to be frank and honest we love all of u just like our kids….. and our duty is to point you the right direction …When we fell that u r you are walking away from the right track .. some times we go for advice and some times forced to put more restriction on you … It is only a matter of time you will recognize what is right and what is wrong …… time will tell u that .
continuing b'cos of another word count limit
I found some shocking comments here
1.) You have the right to ware any colour or any poster underware nobody going to check that … but when u bring an electronic gadget to the campus the authority has full right to inspect it and explore it. (some personal rights will get override under organizational rights …….ask u r seniors who are working in reputed firms about the security checks they have to under go every day ) and u know Mr. V., some first year student phones are full with photos of our own girl students even the photos of senior girls … on seeing a photo we can understand the intention of the photographer.. and realy shocking thing is that intention of most of them are too bad too too bad. So what is your opinion shall we permit them to do what ever they want????? . U feel realy angry if it is your sitster is in’t it??? . That is what we felt … for us all these girls are just like our own bay girl
2.) Most of the comment demands …them to be there in the campus after 5.30 ? let me ask u…. for what?????? Mr. X today is a Saturday I just spent lot of time in our college library for my internal examination preparation .In this whole day Just two students (out of more than 1000 students )came to the library and that too two biharies ( may be they won’t have some other place to go and enjoy) . Internet labs and library works up to 5.30 how many of u visits these places at this time.
3.) Mr. V, you know? we have 24 hours IEEE online library connection. For that college is paying more than 3 lack every year .. did you ever downloaded a single journal . ……again if you are honest the answer will be another “NO”.
You are comparing our respected principal with lot of other govt. college principals who are not bothering about what is happening in their campus…. He can also act like that .. and that is tooo easy.. definitely he will get the same salary . He can be so soft and allow u to bring any thing , allow you to shoot any thing ,and allow you to bunk u r classes as u like and allow u stay and do any thing up to any time . I had worked at some engineering colleges functioning like that. Mr. V , when u become a parent you will understand his merit and u will search for a college with principal like him for your kids to study ………. the time will prove that.
Let me conclude Mr V.
"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified, and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."
Just like u, for me too …..this is the most beautiful introduction of hero in a movie…..But mind u Mr. V , revolution by a terrorist will be never as good as the ending of this great Wachowski Brothers movie …. For that u can find the living example of Bin ladan’s life. I won’t allow one of my brilliant student to become a revolutionist like Bin Ladan….. just because l love my students…….
We have a great culture “matha pitha guru daivam” ….. that is what it is …. We had our gurukulam in which students stayed with the guru .. did the house hold jobs … and learned …. We(this generation faulty members) won’t expect that from this generation student but we expect love and respect little more .
With love Biju
Biju, you have hit the nail on the head. I am also sick of some of the abuse our friends here have given us. By the way, I am one of the doctorate holders who as some one had posted earlier cant speak a decent line of english. thanx for the complement.Sorry I have not acquired the american accent like many of them, but hopefully will be able to manage with my ridiculous mallu accent.
but that is not the point. Is it the done thing to send an SMS while a class is going on and then refuse to hand over the mobile when asked by the teacher concerned? By the way the said teacher is a respected former principal of an Arts and Science college in kerala, and parent of a former MECian to boot. also what when the said person refuses to express even an iota of regret? Also I only hope that no college allows watching movies in the class room during class hours.
I feel sorry that many friends here have not cared to show the basic decency, let alone respect, while posting their comments here. I am not against any one posting grievances and criticism in the posts. some of the posts are humorous, and many are downright obscene. Please remember that by posting such obscenities hiding behing anonymity and false names, you are devaluing yourselves before maybe your parents who might get lucky to see them, your teachers obviously and many sane people who might read this blog.
God Bless all.
Dr. Vinu Thomas,
Asst. Professor,
Dept. of Electronics
You can post your names teachers because he will be happy to see that both of you have spoken good things about him.I can imagine what sort of trouble fakemecian will be in if he gets caught evenif he is doing nothing against the law. Howmuchever you try to justify that guy's actions, we see no reasons as to why we should respect him. He is the most unapproachable and ill mannered principal(i refuse to call him a teacher because he has taught me nothing except for a few swear words in malayalam) i have met. Please dont say I am wrong, we have heard enough and more of his "speeches" at college.
@Biju sir
Sir,
You are the best teacher that i have ever had since i began school n i am saying this with all respect. I dont blame the teachers or principal for taking the mobile phones or laptops when they are misused but the thing is they are not ready to listen what we have in our mind. All that you said might be true only with u, if thats not the case "y the princy is not gettin even the 1% of respect that biju sir is gettin" thats what ma frnd asked me when i told him about ur comment on Fakemecian.
Teachers can scold us n direct us wen we are on the wrong path n they are supposed to do that. thats wer the current mec n the one we had stand apart. We are just prisonrs here, not even allowed to express our feelings. Think about the mec when Jyothi john sir was the pricipal. it ws better in all respects.
What a pity is it to tell evrything we have throgh this media n if i put ma name here, i'm out of the college tomrrow. How does it feel when the princy is addressing the girls "edi ninak exam hallil keran neramayille?" like with street girls ??
Know onething, mec is coming to its end.
we all love you sir...
anonymous (allathe endu peru veykkan)
yeaa..MEC IS COMING TO ITS END!!!not coz of the students..its all upto the faculty...
Biju sir we really respect for wat u r..n u r a good professional...but lemme ask u a few questions???
as per high court law u cant bring phones to college...we wil obey that ..but wat u hav to say abt this..
greenbarrey
as per latest high court rule..
1 . u cant smoke in a public place
2. if u r smoking in a hotel then that hotel shud hav the faclility to atleast seat 30 persons..
and my question is is hotel fathimas in karimakkad having 30 seats nor a smoking corner???
if he can dis obey the law in public y cant we..if smoking is his passion then we are using mobile phones only to communicate..u can ill effects to anything in this world...
wat if i want to become like ma pricipal who is supposed to be a role model...can i start smokin with him ???
do u appreciate that ????
and do u really think that our principal is a real good person who knows the psychology of students...
how cud he behave in such a " polite " manner to parents..??
wtf he has to say abt wat he did last year..calling up parents of students and saying that they r doing immoral traffic in a flat..u know actually wat they were doing..is practising for arts immoral???
are we showing blue films on stage????
don that bloody man don hav any common sense..he too has daughters na..wat if , if i spread the rumour that his daughters are doing immoral traffic in their college??? how wil he feel then..this is ma reply to u wil only feel how gud princi is wen u want ur child to do good education...
and apart from that lemme ask u one more question...
wtf is his problem wen he sees a boy and girl together ???
is he such illeterate fellow..havn he ever been to college ???
n wat does he has to say abt him having a very good relation with a female staff( she is not here now ) . she was his friend rt???
Then y cant we hav friends???
he has put so much care for her na..she was put on top of placement cell..so y cant we care for our friends ???
Biju sir we really respect for wat u r..n u r a good professional...but lemme ask u a few questions???
as per high court law u cant bring phones to college...we wil obey that ..but wat u hav to say abt this..
as per latest high court rule..
1 . u cant smoke in a public place
2. if u r smoking in a hotel then that hotel shud hav the faclility to atleast seat 30 persons..
and my question is is hotel fathimas in karimakkad having 30 seats nor a smoking corner???
if he can dis obey the law in public y cant we..if smoking is his passion then we are using mobile phones only to communicate..u can ill effects to anything in this world...
wat if i want to become like ma pricipal who is supposed to be a role model...can i start smokin with him ???
do u appreciate that ????
and do u really think that our principal is a real good person who knows the psychology of students...
how cud he behave in such a " polite " manner to parents..??
wtf he has to say abt wat he did last year..calling up parents of students and saying that they r doing immoral traffic in a flat..u know actually wat they were doing..is practising for arts immoral???
are we showing blue films on stage????
don that bloody man don hav any common sense..he too has daughters na..wat if , if i spread the rumour that his daughters are doing immoral traffic in their college??? how wil he feel then..this is ma reply to u wil only feel how gud princi is wen u want ur child to do good education...
and apart from that lemme ask u one more question...
wtf is his problem wen he sees a boy and girl together ???
is he such illeterate fellow..havn he ever been to college ???
n wat does he has to say abt him having a very good relation with a female staff( she is not here now ) . she was his friend rt???
Then y cant we hav friends???
he has put so much care for her na..she was put on top of placement cell..so y cant we care for our friends ???
n about staying in college after 5.30???
lemme ask u another question
if a girl happens to be at collge after 5.30 is it immoral traffic ??? y cant there be any good reason for that ???
sir lemme personally ask u a question wil u ever treat ur daughter for being in her college after 5.30 for a good reason ..n the bloody F**K ing securities treat her in such a way that she was doing something u don expect ur daughter to do..nor wil she ever do...
n lemem ask u one more thing...wat good has this new principal done to mec???
do u really think a set of frustrated students gonna make a big difference here...i wil support u if atleast one student here says
" he is good as a pricipal "
and in ur style...
" The answer is another BIG " NO " .." !!!
greenbarrey
so with three years of ruling mec..he has made only this much change to mec..
if u were principal wil u be the same ???
dont want the students to be on their own ??
If we cant tace care of urself at age past 20 ..then wat r we living for...within two three years we r the ones who gonna start living on our own..
n abt mobile raids...
will u like any F*** reading ur mobile inbox...
y the f:::k is he doin like that...
does he hav any self esteem ??
the answer is a big NO
y cant he atleast spare girls inbox..
y is he reading inboxes..wat if , if my mom or dad or sis has sent me something really personal..n wat This bloody princi has to say abt that after he read that..wil he allow us to ever read his inbox???wil he allow u to read ???
its really cheap to read someone els' letter..our teachers teaches us this long way back in schools..
so if he cant keep himself away from doing things that a person at his position wud never do..then he doesn hav the right to say the same to us..
regarding laws..ask him to stop smoking publically or inside campus..
and he is a man who only has ego !!!
respect is something u giv n take..u cant force anyone to respect u..it follows ur deeds..if no student here respects him ..do u really think the students are wrong ??
n this is not an school...jus remember ur college days..n pls give us the freedom u ppl enjoyed..having friendy staffs n principal who treated u in much better way...
n he will suffer for all his deeds...
and it wud be really nic if some teachers give up their ego...see the students the way u r supposed to ..
GOD LUCK TO OUR JUNIORS>>N WEN U GET ONE GOOD SINGLE REASON DO PROTEST>> NEVER FEAR>>
THERE WERE MANY WHO CUDNT DO THAT COZ OF NOT ENUF SUPPORT>>U PPL PLS DON BE LIK THAT>>>
GREENBARREY
THE COMMANDO
DESTRUKSHON
@Biju Sir
With all respect, let me say:
The behaviour of some faculties to students is really bad. you need to give respect and then take respect. I doubt very much if our principal have heard it. He is kinda 'local' with students.... You cannot deny it as we have experienced it..
What respect you guess a principal reading inbox of a student(yes, its true...he is hunting for messages in our inboxes...and we know what he is looking for) or smoking near the college campus('smokey'... i love that name) would get?
Please, dont feel offended sir; You have treated us well, and thats the reason you are one of our most respected teacher. Maybe princy can learn from you.
Sir
Is it right for the principal to tell a girl, "nee aareyadi ivide irunnu kayyum kannum kaanikunne??" This is something tat happened 2 yrs bk.. The girl was sitting alone in a classroom looking out of the window.. She is now a passout and i wish she sees this.. is tat a crime?
N who is he to call us all "Eda" n "Edi"?? Other than teachers with whom we have good personal relations, i don't think any TEACHING STAFF addresses a student like that.
Why have a person on top of us just to say NO to whatever we do? All the teachers who posted here know how much the guys who organized university fest had to work. If only there was more support for them from the principal. Individually, teachers might have supported the students (even monetary help), but why make the students struggle(forget all the money they spent) to do something good for the college?
To the faculties who atleast heard our voice here...
IS our PRINCY the right man for RIGHT JOB???
** He created lot much trouble to organisers of EXCEl...The only tech fest here...
COMMENTS : Is it bad to spare one or two days of college for conducting excel for which even students from IITs are willing to take part.
Does he really think that HIS MEC is better than IITS...even IITs spend more than a week on techfests..Here he cant atleast even spend three days ...Wat is his problem if the stuentd make it a bigger one?? In every college as years pass by thier tech fest Gets bigger n more attractive...
**He hates students going for Cultural fests in other colleges...
COMMENTS : Then for whom the hell r students their oraganizing that. Do u really think the staffs and pricipal there are really stupid to invite other colleges.Will abstaining from such things fetch u more marks in ur exams ?? SHow me a single person who has got more marks after he has given up his passion for some stupid idiot like our Princi. Here that bloody man don giv us the oppertunity to conduct one..So atleast cant he support students from here taking part. After all its only the college that benefits not the individual students.
greenbarrey...
**He hates Yi .
COMMENTS : I seriously doubt whether he knows the expansion of Yi. Has he ever tried to understand what Yi is all abt ?? Has he ever shown any hospitality to the Yi heads.Is it fair practice to hate or deny something before u even know wat it is or wats its motives??
Has he ever read a single line abt Yi??
(sorry hindu news paper kandittillatha manushyanodu chodikkunathinu ennodu kshamikkuka )
*** He hates Students
Sorry NO COMMENTS....
GREEN BARREY
THE COMMANDO
DESTROY'EM
""" BREAK THE RULES """
@Biju Sir
Sir, we all indeed hold you in high esteem but unfortunately we cant speak the same about Smokey. Being a girl myself, I would like to ask you Sir when you compare us with your your baby girl. The attitude shown towards us girls by the male staff is highly implorable to say the least. Why bringing in this discrimination between guys and gals in the first place itself? As in the words of FakeMecian, why the hell are we being treated as "alien demigods"(I personally identified with the usage of this term). If my parents can trust me enough to send me to college during class hours, im pretty sure that they trust that i wil do no wrong and that i can take care of myself after class hours also. After all most of us are staying miles away from our parents. And please, if we were ever planning to get involved in the so called immoral traffiking(im pretty sure that majority of the staff over here thinks that that is the only reason girls are here for, else we wouldnt be treated like a piece of shit), the college campus would certainly never figure on our list for a rendevous with whoever....Its as if the only reason we exist is to do such stuff.How outrageous! Does rape time begin at 5.30pm or what? Besides, I have never heard of a single incident involving Smokey and any of the girls in our college, where Smokey spoke decently/civilly to any of them. Each new incident only proves that he sees girls in a very poor light as if we are some sort of bombs waiting to explode or something. Its highly insulting you know when the girls are shooed away from college every evening as if we are some kind of cheap whores. To tell the truth, we feel pity on Smokey and the other staffs children who have such untrusting people as their parents...
dear sirs,
I would like to counter your points one by one
1.)The fist thing that was told forcefully to us by our staff advisor was laptops are banned , banned , banned .
Well the people who bring them are the ones that defy it.
the wifi was made unusable by our very respected principal i believe to cut costs. ( It was & still is practically useless ) , hardly anyone uses the college wifi anymore.
2.) the mobile ban , as far as i know, i have seen a cusat circular saying non camera mobile are allowed. If there was a G.O then it should have been passed to the students. If mobiles are totally banned , how cum the teachers can flaunt them in college . I dont think the law if ther is one apply only to the students.That would be absurd & irrational. As for the restrictions placed on mobile phones in the corporate sectot , it is only in case of research centres or such place where there is a genuine fear of loss of intellectual property or sensitive data . ( does mec under "suresh kumar produce any ?)
As for ur fear of the misuse of images clicked etc, I dont need to have images , wen i am listening to a lecture i could be fantasising about the teacher , my classmate or sum person . U cannot get inside ones head nd stop his thoughts. If a person misuses image for malicious intent , then he should be stopped , otherwise ur just wastying ur tym.
You should also read one of salman rushide's essay
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article466971.ece
rather than ban camera mobiles , we should adopt the measure put in place in south korea , etc , where when a photo is clicked a sound is made .
Why couldnt the teacher have just ignored the student & gone on with her teaching , he wasnt exactly using it during his exams. I mean no disrespect to the said teacher , infact i truly respect her.
Also how is it that these restrictions on the mobile phones dont fall upon the teachers or th pg students . Double standards ???????
Mobile pones are an integral part of life in the NIT s & the IIT s , IIM s & every premier institutions, infact the ,mobiles are used by the professors to be in touch with thier students. In IIsc , courtsey my senior , you can do whatever u want in the labs , so long as u produce the desired results , there are absolutely no restrictions . u can even use mp3 players & listen to music . We are not asking for that .... None of these institutions actually restrict the use of mobiles phones . Because they realise its usefulnees & dont live in the 1970 's , they hav learnt to adopt newer technologies to their benefit. when ignou is pushing for the usage of mobile phones , we are debating on banning its use . Are we really that ancient.
3.)We are adults who know are responsibilities. We dont have to be spoon fed.If u argue that u are just guiding us , then who will guide us for the rst of our lives ( will u keep bringing us to the right track , wen we r in our jobs , aft getting married ??????????????? ),If we wanted to be discplined we would have joined the NCC not MEC , we r here for professional education , not to be told when to sleep & when to wake up . We dont need to be parented in college.
4.)I have been frustrated as many others when ever i have tried to download ieee papers bcos of the limited no of slots, why did we put up the systems in the library???????????????????
I have also tried to download papers from acm , it cannot be done.
Is our library that really well stocked , honestly not , it lacks so many technical titles.
Can we download MIT OCW videos form our lab , no we just cant.
5.) Is our principal a principal ??????? has he produced any academic work in the recent past ?????? He should be called an administrator , not a principal . Does he take part in any event organised by the students . no . he keeps away from them all . I cna give u specific examples , but then i will be reveaing my id , & i dont wish to do that.
have we had any technical talks or seminars ?????????/ no . why is our library still , not computerised , even after the software "koha" has been installed on it ????? Why did it take such a long tym to hav bakup installed for the cc lab ?????????????Bcos we hav the best administrator / principal.
He is an authoritarin , a chatambi , what he should realise is " Maliga moughalil erikuna mannaendey tholil marapuu ketunavan bhavan "
U cannot demand respect , u shold commad rspect.
love , somone who respects bijumon sir .
To vinu sir ,
I know that u have an infectious energy , & is one of the most respected teachers , Dsp "pulii" ,but the honest fact is we have sum very disappointing faculty , who have no idea what they r teaching.And the guest lecturers are even worse . This is a real malaise , we dont not have enough trained faculty.This has not been addressed.
We have a right to criticise , we have our freedom of expression. We can question our Pm ,our Cm , but not our principal , is he above all ?.
If a student watches movies wasting his precious tym , we should probably advice him , not penalise him .
the very fact that such an open discussion is not possible in college underscores the sorry state of affairs.
Are we in a free country : yes
Do we have freedom of expression : yes
Can we question the principal :NOOOOOOOOO
Will the Principal address these issue in a transparent fashion :NOOOOOOOO
I again reiterate , why hasnt our principal produced any academic output since he has taken over , or atleast has he even given a technical talk.
I am happy the teachers have finally taken note of the issues & have started talking ,I hope we can have an open discussion in college soon , I think we should all stand united & root out the source of all trouble , the "administrator ( Principal).
No person will object to criticism when it helps him/her to improve. The problem is when the language used to do it is derogatory. You could give any number of reasons for the obscenities used, but none of them will be justifiable. you could have used decent and civil language in your posts. If it could not be expected from everyone here, why does not the admin of this blog step in and ask them to use polite language? that was the jist of my post.
bye to all.
Vinu.
Bad language : Using abusive language is a tactic resorted to by people who don't have valid points in their arguments. Please refrain from using them :)
IEEE/ACM : The existence of a facility(such as the IEEE library) does not have to be validated by 100% usage. Even if a decent number of ppl use it(as is the case, I believe), the facility justifies its existence.
Laptop ban : The misuse of 1 or 2 does not imply the misuse of the entire community. The fact that a lot of err..unmentionables is freely available on the Internet does not mean that we ban the Internet as a whole, do we? I believe the benefits of using a laptop far outweigh its misuse.
Checking/invasion of privacy: I've never had my right to privacy violated in any workplaces I have visited or worked in. So is the case with my friends who work in reputed firms. The guy who was SMSing during class hours was plain wrong. But that does not mean everyone else is running a pr0n business with their mobile phones. It's a huge and unhealthy extrapolation to make.
The language used has been bad....but that would just explain our frustation....
But hereafter i think we should be careful when it comes to choosing words....because we do not want our protests to be neglected bcoz of our language...
Clearly this blog has caught the eyes of our teachers and students....and I hope soon there will be appropriate actions from the staff of MEC, to bring back its prosperity
In short "restrain from using smoky's language"
I agree, why should we stoop down to his level?
after reading the new comments i thought i should quit from here.... I can't stand with this kind of language..
any way found some valuable comments from Anirudh..
1.) U can download IEEE paper without any difficulty from our labs.. (only one person can download the paper at particular time but mind u the size of a journal will be around 100 or 200 KB and for downloading that you need only less than 5 sec. in our college net connections. So the time slot circulates too fast : I had downloaded 15 papers in less than 30 min in the last month ) But u know this same restriction is there in NIT's i don't know the case at IIT's
1.) About ACM ... definitely we need an ACM chapter here and i will offer my full hearted support for that and try my level best ( we can work together for that)
2.) There was no down sizing in the internet band width . But actually there is download restriction.. ( that b'cos of the audit objection from IHRD central office).
U can have 4 internet connection in this campus through 4 different proxy servers
a.) 192.168.0.1
b.) 192.168.0.2
c.) 192.168.0.3
and one more new connection from last month
d) 192.168.0.4
and for fast surfing u can use 192.168.0.3 and
and for downloading large files u can use 192.168.0.2 (download restriction is around 40 MB) better idea is to switch between this proxy servers manually depending on the load at a particular time.
2.) Interesting comment about library automation
We all are waiting for that. (koha is running but you know the data entry is not that easy.( for the data entry of one text book need rs 7 around and that is a big problem. We had discussed this issues with MAC leaders and it better if u guys find an alternative.)
3.) It is funny to compare the administration of NIT's and IIT's with MEC. You know both are central govt. institutions with absolute funding. That institutions have full autonomy in academics and finance. so u can have 24 hours labs. here the case is totally different ( Let me tell u my personal experience : I have been locked inside the college for 3 hours up to 9.30 PM with another facutly member and around 10 no's of students ..in an evening while working for the placement cell of college of engineering adoor .We asked the security to open the doors he resisted and walked away. finally Pricipal Jothy john sir contacted this security officer through another faculty members phone. very next day I met Jothy john sir with my complaint ?? u know what he said ..... AS per I HRD order to sit inside the college after 5.30 you need permission letter .( that is not only for u my dear student for the faculties too) I don't have that permission letter and my complaint was gone with the wind......... so my dear gal utilize the potential of the institution during the working time , and if you need more time collect the permission and do u r works
4.) I spent my time here to correct your misunderstanding. I posted my name not to get some reward from any body. U guys are my student and I thought it is my resposibility to correct u r mistakes. I am not a perfect man ( you can find some on like that in Reymond's add). I born in a lower middle class family and did all my education at govt. schools in malayalam medium.So I also lacks that new bench marks of perfect teachers " fluent with Oxford English"(Ohhh sure i ..won't have that P.hd and even M.Tech too ). I won't said we will direct you in all your life. no body can do that ... your can live life as u like ... what i said is ...inside an educational institution u have some jurisdiction. If u try cross that jurisdiction.. it is our responsiblity to correct it... some times forcefully too .... You guys need better understanding of the final year paper "Industrial Organization" try to read that text book not for u r exam but for your life
I wonder ...how u can compare u r rights and institution heads rights with same bench marks... Do you have the same right to do thing as u r parents in your home..... Still even becoming a father i believe my father and mother has more rights than me in my family affairs..
( may be i am outdated .. or still in the 17the century)...
My dear students we inherits some old cultural values from our parents ... and i am keeping them close to my heart ( my be u guys feels that i am outdated or obsolete ) and that values makes us what we are ... so pls use decent and civil language in your posts
with love Biju
Dear all,
I want a clarificxation about the need of staff permission for each and everything? The people behind Excel, Yi, class reps and PC people have suffred a lot in getting the so called green signal from the faculty members for even taking a piece of paper from the college. And let me tell you honestly it is the only work in college where the exact heirarchy works, ie staff advisors or teacher in charge first, then HOD(the only place their names come to play), and finally our principal. Personally i have wasted a lot of my class hours for getting all the permissions ready for conducting some events in the college.
Our college is well-known for its placements and various acdemic and non-academic activities being conducted here. It may be some workshops, seminars or even our El-Juego. Taking permission is fine, but for using a class room we have to get the permission from staff incharge, Johnson sir(who is handling the room allocation i guess), the respective HOD and our principal. A minimum of 3 signature is needed in each and every permission letter. And as the malayalam saying "Thomman murukumbol Chandi azhiyum" , ie it is very difficult to get all of them together in college even if you spend 2 hours for it. You can easily do it with the permission of respective event in charge only. So the intension is clear, it is not fot protecting any of the college belongings or something but only to show that the authority too is doing something and they are the supreme powers. As our beloved KD sir says We can handle this(scene Excel!!), even if you people are not taking up. And i haven't seen any such initiatives from the so called authority yet.
There was a situation where the class reps had to get a permission letter signed from the class advisor and Principal for conducting the Onam celebration in their classes. Let me ask the authority who gave you the permission to use the college auditorium for conducting your own Onam celebrations? Can you counter this respected sirs?
About the mobile phones, if they are banned in college it is applicable for all , for all teaching and non-teaching staffs as well. Especially the camera phones. If the security guarding the Principal's chamber and the office staffs can use phones during the working hours, and if professors can use it even during their class hours then how can you tell the students not to use it? Also for many of us(the hostel and PG)there is a big security issue in keeping our digital gadgets in hostels. So we prefer to bring them to college along with us. Using mobile phones within the campus is wrong, but bringing them or keeping them in our bag isn't that big issue right?
One serious issue i noticed is the proper heirarchy is not maintained in our college administration. People wihtout any professional education experience can't understand the pulse of an Engineering college. So qualified teachers holding good posts in college please regain your powers. Please dont let any dirty political favourisms to guide our college.
One more thing i want to add on to this, Hitler was a great ruler Abraham LIncon too was one. But the history don't treat them as the same. Why? It is not just about the power and authority you hold but how lovable and approachable you are to your followers.
Dear vinu sir
The admin actually deleted 2 or three , that were indeed very obnoxious , with a comment , but i guess he is rather liberal & tolerates the generous usage of "f**k" , like words which are in context . If the language was distasteful , we all owe you all an apology .
Lets move on and start discussing the issues addressed. Can we have a discussion on the usage of the mobile phone in college ???/ , where evry one is atleast showed a copy of the cusat circular & the high court ruling , & have a healthy discussion?????? taking all opinions into account . where evry 1 has an equal rt to talk & be heard.
dear bijumon sir ,
1.)sir there was indeed downgrading of the bandwidth , we discontinued one of the leased lines , we had taken up . If if was done under a diktat from the IHRD & had been shared with us , as it affected all , we would have respected u all more.
2.) sir , now that we also have Mtech , students shouldnt we try to upgrade the ieee access , I tried so so many times , to acess ieee.
Frustrated i finally switched over to open archieves like , citeseerx ,DPLB , ( personally i believe all such repositries should have fully open and unrestricted access , we should start shifting to open jouranls & archieves , just like we pioneered shifting to linux fron windows in our college )
3.) Sir what differentiates us from IITs & NITs is not just the funding , & the autonomy they enjoy , but the progressiveness & the pragmatism of the policy makers there . We pioneered the usage of linux in our colleges not bcos we were nudged to do so by ihrd or bcos that was the policy of the state government. It happened Bcos the policy makers , then had the vision & the foresight to realise its benefits & advantages . That should be emulated now , again , that is what i meant.
4.) If the teacher concerned actually knows what he/she is teaching , we wont question his /her diction , vocabulary , or vocation . Lets admit we dont have top class teachers , we have a few really good teachers , the rest of them are wasting our tym & theirs .It is a fact that most of us sit in our classes doning nothing . not bcos we are fools or uninterested , but bcos our teachers kill the subject, especially the guests .
5.) after 1 turns 18 , he /she has the right to vote for any person he /she prefers , he/she does not have to ask his/her parents for input. what u are epousing is the typical "middle class mentality " with legs in 2 boats , one in the future & one in the past . I mean no disrespect sir. Let us work us togather united for a better mec , better tomorrow
I am a person who likes(and often makes) open comments like the one fake MECian & his frnds r makin.. And buddies Ani, George and co. This is not an HR/MBA interview, wher u need to be diplomatic..this is a blog, wher u hav the right to raise ur opinion!! And sometimes it does happen dat ur emotions burst out and u tend to use some offensiv words.. So rather than correctin their moral part(which is anyway not gonna improve), better try to understand that underlying feeling!!!!
At Vinu sir, Biju sir:
As is evident frm ur posts, u ppl hav excellent english... But can our princi write even a 50 word essay here.. without a grammar mistake!!! I still remember the day wen he let us all down by his "english speakin" wen CTS came to our campus in 2007!!!
U r all law abiding citizens I know.. Do u think smokey reached his current position by doin everythin within the limit of law..Can u say there were no dirty games played!!!how many ppl did he bribe and influence to reach this place!!!1 fine day he takes over the seat even b4 jyothi john leaves.. Whom r u playin innocent to??We all know how jyothi john was thrown away and this guy replaced him.. We had unravelled the mistery back in 2007..remember?? Do u want us to unfold those old stories again!!!
I am sure every professor/lecturer in MEC has gone to collegeo and enjoyed those days really well.. Then why the hell r they makin our juniors live the life of jail-inmates!!! Do u think only these hitler like policies r gonna bring results?? Go and check ppl's profile who passed out frm MEC b/w 93-2007!!! Back then, we never had such strict rules.. Do u find those guys joblesss, selling vegetables in the market?? or do u find them undisciplined enuf that they slap their seniors?? I am just beggin to put urself into the shoes of our juniors and imagine urself to b 1 of them?? I agree to the discipline part and all dat stuff...but do relax certain things and giv them certain freedom... Coz the current system is literally tying their hands.. which is adding to their frustration and in the process, they r losin their creativity, productivity etc...for eg: they start wastin their time & other resources writin such blogs(or writing replies to a blog), participating in strikes and other stuffs!!!
PS: I didnt mean that the current blog is a waste of time..I appreciate every1 who spent time to write and reply to this blog..Its better to react..rather than sitting back and takin the things as it is!!
My dear student .... I would like to remained one big financial matter.
for the last five years we had enjoyed a big financial advantage .... that is TEQIP grand of rs 5 core... and first phase of TEQIP is over in the last year. So lot of facilities which are started under TEQIP will get stooped.... That is the real issues for upgrading IEEE or starting ACM or keeping the 2 MBPS leased line ect. The administration cannot use the plan funds for running facilities strated under TEQIP ....
We can all hope that we will qualify forThe second phase of TEQIP grand and that will solve lot of technical issues and can dream a much better technical world around MEC. ( as i know .... fight for the second phase is to tight ..... let us hope for the best.)
1.) Why u need permission to alter class room seating and furniture transpotation???? did u ever thought positively???? Johnson sir is not sleeping on top of our college tables??? then what is his headache?? did ever thought?????
The reason is simple we are running short of class rooms... for conducting a series test or university examination properly seating arrangement is himalyan task .. and if u alter the seating in side a class room ... it adds more pain for him..... My dear friends while getting the permission all of u agree that you will do every thing back as it is after the program....nothing will work after the program I am also a victim of this false assurance .Furniture alteration for the last EXCEL had taken three days of my M.Tech class ... ( i am telling 100% truth).All the staff in charge has responsibility of the furniture stock in his class. Two tables are missing from my class room (c4B)after the excel. I need to hand over the charges before revealing for my M.Tech. But none of the teachers will take the charges without verifying the stock.. so i asked Salahudeen, Nidhin Thankachan( students so close to my hearts) for several time about this.... nothing worked and i have to wait 3 days... and 3 days of my P.G class has been gone with the wind just because of that furniture shift????????
friends i am quiting for a while .... day after tomorrow i have to write my series exam .... lot of things study ....
bye Biju
Is there any provision according to IHRD/CUSAT rules to go complain against smoky for the words that he use against students. I think its high time for the students to figure out a way to give a mass petition against him.
The reason why students didn't react to some of smokys actions is simply because they are more civilized. I still remember the placing of posters on windows and walls opposite to jojo's room back in 2006. Does any one think this was done by students ????.
Regarding the doctoral degree of smoky, everyone is doubtful not because of his vocabulary skills but the way he behaves to students and teachers. You cannot complain a student if he think suspiciously about the educational qualification of smoky simply because this is not the expected behavior from an engineering college principal. The chair doesn't suit him or may be he doesn't fit to the current chair.
Sir , the TEQIP argument is stupid , as no organisation will provide fundinging for X number of years & then leave the target body in a lurch , it just dosent make sense. They r not going to say here take this money , do this this ,this, for X number of years , then its upto u to continue the projecs . that is just plain stupid. either there is more to it that the administrators r not willing to reveal or TEQip is just dum.
Sir , please post stronger arguments.
i will explain .. all the technical luxuries of MEC ( campus LAN, wifi, webserver, mailserver, cluster and java boxes, laptops, machines, lcd projectors 1000 of books in the library ect ... etc ) are the product of TEQIP. My dear friend to know the luxuries of MEC U just visit any other IHRD engineering college ...... U know we have engineering colleges under IHRD , even after 10 years of existents not a proper three phase electrical power supply inside the campus.....
Before coming to MEC I dreamed of conducting a class using lcd projector...... b'cos to use lcd projector u need power supply inside u r college is in't it??????? ...
Apart from MEC and college of engineering chenganoor did u ever thought about the students rest of 7 IHRD engineering colleges... They are also paying the same fees (may be lower entrance rank ) but i am sure they will not enjoy the current facilities available at MEC with in at least 5 years . One strong reason is... ofcourse TEQIP
Biju
sir , u have not read my post clearly , what i had raised was , if teqip , gives the college "X" amount of money for bandwidth or sumthing lyk , that involves continous cost , they will not arbitarily , say 2 months later , u plp have to find money for that on ur own. this was in regard to the ost where u said the bandwith downgrade , etc was bcos teqip funding was coming to an end.
One of the main , bone of contention is the usage of phones in the campus. Can we have a composite discussion in college ?????? anytimy ???
ha ha that is what i am explaining ...
C TEQIP project is MHRD(govt of India project).As u know that project financially supports for the quality improvement of engineering colleges and other institution. then college can spend the amount under different heads ( infrastructural,faculty development , service to the community etc...) ie u can meet some amount for infrastructral development( like the leased line u mentioned) but the problem is this project will not allow to take money for recurring cost ( running cost) of that infrastructral development. The project direct us to fined our own source of income for recurring cost... now tell me my dear friend how will we generate income other than the fee collected from student ( fee collected and very less amount of state govt. aid are coming under plan fund and we cannot divert that fund )
No here comes the deadlock as u pointed out....
U know this project is not started with respect to the functioning of IHRD. This project has been started with respect institutions like IIT's and NIT's where there is financial autonomy.......
But we can solve the puzzle productively
with n number (realy hard) solutions like starting R&D service.....
Diversify for more technical short term course,(using the potential our on students..)
Extending fee based technical support to other govt enterprises ect.. ect.. (like iit's and nit's functioning )
But for that we have to go miles and miles....from were we are right now
(may be u r laughing remembering the sreenivasan's dialog "enthu nalla ndakkatha swpanam" )
But this year we got one stepping stone ...
MEC is elected as research center for CUSAT..
and if we will be elected as nodal center for TEQIP second phase ........ i believe ..we will emerge.....
let me say god bye friends....
I have 5 papers to study for my internal exam Struggling with Red black tree and splay tree.... .. ..
so i am signing of till... 11/02/10 c u guys after my exam
with love Biju
Students
I am a senior lecturer working at one of the ihrd engineering college. I know the facilities and faculties of mec ekm. Students, it is a fact that u r really lucky students. Students studying in various engineering colleges under ihrd, cape are facing pathetic situations. Among them mec, and chengannur colleges are getting exceptn. Before u post a comment , u have 2 find the time for comparing the strictness and other disciplinary actions in pvt engg colleges. I knew that there is no lap top ban. U are actually misleaded and running in out of track. Please find the time to understand things really happened from ur teachers. Moreover that ur spirit for criticising all may be because of ur age. u will be think in the right way when u become a parent or when u become a professional.
Always try to think from the managment side also.
I am a parent of Xmecian. I am really surprising, why students of mec are responding like this? Why they use these terms to address teachers? I clearly know, what was happening in mec 5 years back. We never, expect these types of comments. I hope u are very matured and skilled students. U should spare ur time to studies and related acadamic activities. Why do u target ur principal? We expect good responses from ur side. I knew that a lot of developments have done by ur new principal? why do you not appreciating him? Hence think and comment with minds of maturity
@Anonymous parent:
I can understand ur parental concern..But do u want children to tolerate these silly rules implemented by smoky!!! They can be bright in academics even without respectin a person who doesnt deserve any respect..I can guarantee that even the teachers there dont hav a very gud opinion bout this guy!!! I had passed out of MEC immediately after this guy arrived!!So luckily we studied in a much open and better environment..Do u think ther wer no 80%scorin students in our batch!!!dont u think v ppl got gud companies durin those days..
Sorry uncle/aunty..this is not a school..wher u learn frm only wat is taught frm classes or lectures.. In fact durin my time only 2 or max 3 modules used to get complete for any subject...and dat too in a mediocre way...Of course ppl lik biju sir, vinu sir, mini miss and jayasree miss wer exceptions!! but to be frank rest all wer junk!!!so wat my pt. is that in MEC..its mainly self-study..of course I'm not encouragin ppl to bunk classes and all..but I am saying that certain amount of freedom has to be given to them...the main thing being the placement cell..I wil giv u an example. During our time, PC was handled fully by student coordinators who wer selected by their class-mates..but now..they r made to act like dummies of teachers!!! I still dont understand why it was done...wen it was handled so well by the students!!! Only reason I can c is smokey& frnds wanted to prove their supremacy over the students..
I could find here a lot of responses from our most respected teachers. But none of the comments ever mention about the principal or his good activities. They didn't advocate him.
The principal's office is a smoke room. The most prestgous MEC having always smoking principal smoking inside the principal office.
We have a few number of questions
1. Is he an approachable person?
Does he speak any proper decent language other than street language?
2. Is he capable of speaking for more than 30 mins to an HR/CEO of a company other than saying yes/no/fine ?
3. Is he technical sound in any subject ?
4. Did he ever encourage/congratulate any student in MEC for doing something?
5. Did he ever keep patience to listen to any student ?
I couldn't even find him behaving decent to the security staffs.
He always wanted one thing. Be the the terror. Divide and rule.
Everyone knows the story how Jyothi John sir got pulled out of college. "The play of the worst politician"
@Parent who commented above,
If MEC students started using this much bad words. How much will they be frustrated. Think. Look at the count of comments happening. That itself answers the question. "Something is wrong with the principal" right ?
I could agree with ban on mobile usage in campus. But keeping a mobile switched off is fine. right? What is the logic in raiding the phone and capture it ? There are several students who travel long distance everyday. May be girls. If some panic situation comes, mobile phone is the only way for communication ?
Banning laptop in college is suicidal. Its a technology institution. Remember that. MECians are well known for their exceptional skills which comes in the extra activities. Computer science association was active a few years before. What is its status now ? Why were the Linux class to first years stopped ? Digg into its history.
Students are organizing these kind of tutorials and workshops to share and grow. By conducting a workshop or tutorial, the speaker or the tutor gains nothing. Its the listeners who gains something. right? What happens if so called the authorities restrict and discourage them. There is no authorities. There is only one person. The respect "demanding" so called 'Principal'.
@senior lecturer IHRD college
this is not so much about resources or facilities , this is about the erosion of our personal freedoms & the autocratic attitude of our "principal"
@bijumon sir
science & research thrives in a free & open environment that does not exist today in MEC.
Good luck with the trees .
many juniors doesnt know that... it will be better if u post it here.....
i mean, how jyothi john sir was pulled out?
linux class to juniors stopped bcoz students pointed out the corruption behind it, by teachers and HOD. So, they started to offer us, students 200 rupees per class.
Are we taking class for money? what do u think? How they can think like that? Its the precious and pure "teaching" we wanted, and not a handful of money. (pls visit the orkut profile posted, in this blog). Thats why we told them(teachers), that we are no longer gonna take class. But i personally taught and helped many in Linux(not under the corrupt banner of MEC), and I am proud of it.
Taking 1 day class and asking students to sign the attendance sheet for 3 days(yes, it happened) i not acceptable to most of us students.
I wont reveal my identity but certain things wer openly discussed on a public forum about jyothi john sir's exit!!! It was a well executed plan by smokey & co. It is assumed that for that purpose they even took the help of a lawyer who lives in thrikkakara..who was very close to these ppl. They caught hold of some1 at a very high level(beyond the hold of even IHRD director) to execute their plan!! 1 fine day wen students came to college they heard this shockin news!!And even b4 jyothi john sir cud walk away, smoky caught hold of the chair!!
There was a farewell organized by students as teachers tuk zero interest in doin dat!! It was held in out auditorium and as expected just 2-3 teachers turned up for the function. We even heard that some teachers wer threatened by smoky & co. coz of which they avoided that function.
I am sure that claims will come that all this is wrong..but there r strong reasons for us to believe this..if u wer in the campus durin the year 2007, then u cud hav got a better picture about this..
@Parents:
We do have our mind set on the academics as well. But in the present world, only academics doesn't help out living life! It has many other aspects as well.
Am always surprised by the professionalism that our XMECians have always kept up!
Truly proud to be an MECian :)
This is a very serious allegation. The photos of the documents posted above show that , very unreasonable amounts of money have been spent ,on food, Rs 17000 , this is very suspicious. If more such documents are available please post them .
I dont think the people in charge can skirt responsibility anymore , they have to reply , to these very serious allegations. This could not have been pulled off by a single person . This could not have been an isolated event. It has happened not once but atleast thrice .
I hope the teachers how have read this blog explain these glaring irregularities.
4 day for a short term training program on "Linux & web desgning techniques" does not make sense .
15000 rs / for printing & stationary charges for 50 students . that a staggering 300/rs of stationary for 1 student .Did they gift the students Tanenbaum's texts on networking ?
5000 rs / renumeration for expert faculty. ( werent these classes conducted by the macs volnteers ??????)
In the third pic , which gives the details of a workshop on hardware maintenance , 50,000 Rs was spent on consumables & essential tools. for 25 people.
Thats 2000 Rs of consumables & tools , excluding the money spent on food .
It looks lyk tequip funds hav been looted . Smokey will have sum explaining to do.
http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#Profile?uid=17529851590176319748
Smells lyk a scam of over a lakh
Jyothi john sir is on twitter
Pls ask him to join this discussion.
plse note that comments u r posting should be correct and reliable.The short term course on linux & web designing was conducted for 110 students, not for 50 students. Course duration was 10 days not for 5 days. Whenever u collect the information, it should be corrrect, otherwise reliability of posts should be reduced
These are just a few points that came to my mind:
1. regarding mobiles, it is dangerous for hostelites to leave their mobiles in the hostel/PG and come.
dayskis travel from faraway places and they need their mobiles just in case something happens(esp girls)
as long as they are not used when classes are going on,why should smokey bother?
2.taking stuff from ppls bags when they are not around is the work of a THIEF.no other way to put it. (its also well known that the stuff that is taken is meant for use by SOMEone.)
3. these days,getting duty leave for techfests etc is almost impossible,thanks to smokeys rules.then, these ppl come and ask us for copies of the certificates we won,coz they need to submit it for accreditation. WTF?!
4.its true that language used here is not exactly clean. but, its equally true that not ONE person here has stooped to level of smokey. that kind of abusive and dirty language(that too when talking to girls) is a special skill.hats off to you smokey!
5.respect: it does not come automatically, you have to earn it. i am ready to give respect to smokey, if someone can point out a SINGLE thing he has done after coming here that is worthy of respect??
so lemme end with that
As a responsible parent, I cannot allow my ward to use swear words like the person who has posted before myself. Although we belong to the older generation, we can understand what "wtf" expands to. If you want anyone to listen to what you are posting here you should stop using these swear words and four letter words. I will not allow my ward to use such bad language and hope that no other fellow parent of MEC allows it. What will your parents say when they see the quality of your posts? Since in the Indian culture teachers are treated at par with God and parents, it is equivalent to ranting against your parents. I have already posted here but I see that it makes no difference.
The concerned parent.
To the concerned parent,
The situation is changing the student, he was not born by knowing all these words. It is the culture in which he grew had made him like this.It is the family, school, friends, college and teachers are the one who influences him/her. When ppl like, those who are to be repsected like GOD are been called with these holy words. You should understand what had urged him/her (not just one student, but the entire student commmittee including the passed outs) to shower those words on him.It is only because of his deeds and words, he has been gifted with this wonderful blog.
There ws no other such wnderful gift to give him.
And keep refrain from using this abusive words ppl. Understand that this blog is been noticed and read by many people like Teachers, parents and other respected ppl who get offended with such things.Lets understand that, during their youth days, they had respected those ppl who derogated them and their family members.
To the comment : http://fakemecian.blogspot.com/2010/01/laptop-ban.html?showComment=1265568637019#c4355643748709055469
The linux class to First years goes on in the college every year. This years linux class is scheduled this month and MACS is working on it.
The seminars which you call as conducted by MACS were not conducted by MACS. It was teachers arranged it, except for taking class. Students took class and it was not MACS members alone who took class, there were electronics students also involved in the so called "seminars".
It should be noted that once when MACS had proposed an event under the banner of tequip, for school students, it took a hell lotta prblms to get it approved. After this event MACS had told the staff incharge that MACS will only take care of seminars under the banner of MACS and will not do the so called "seminars" again. This was the actual story.
@ the concerned parent
A lot of serious issues have been raised here besides swearing , I think we are matured enf , just like you to sift the wheat from the chaff. We are not having fun here , nor are we statesmen of Benjamin Franklin's stature.
There are even purported documents posted , showing corruption.
hi,
great to see people bringing out their opinion.first of all what principal should understand is that u cannot demand respect ,u have to earn it.and u r not expected to use derogatory cheap language.ur sadism and frustration shouldn't come out as ur foul language.i think u cant stand seeing younger generation and students doing much better than u .be it acadamically or in terms of facilities.regarding ban of mobile and laptops. i saw people concerned about wrong usage of mobile.
wen u r out in public thr hundreds of people taking ur pics..now how do we deal with it,,just because of mentality of 1 r 2 we cannot completely ban it. ELIYE PEDICHU ILLAM CHUDUKA
same goes with watching movies on laptops or bunking classes.
nd how many teachers who posted here can tell me that they never bunked classes in their entire life.someone commented here about how things work in corporate world..helllo we have freedom of mobiles laptop and even music at work!!..on a lighter note i guess almost 99 % of yahhoites frm mec had supplies too.hey even bill gates flunked rite??.anywyas iam not saying that studies should be ignored,what iam saying is u cant force anyone to sit in class or for that matter listen to a lectures unless u want to,at 18-21 years we have the prudence to understand how important studies are and more than anyone else ,each and every one of us are concerned about future and that is main reason y principal is net yet slapped or stabbed!. and i must add only abt 5% of teachers in mec can be called real competent teachers.rest are there to while their time and get few effortless pennys .and to ppl who think after 5 30 only immoral traffic happens in mec and to pricipal who keeps asking how nd wen we do it..we dont have to do in grilled mec corridors!!if we really want to do it. and to people who think we are little ahead of the middle class values of century..itz not that we are ahead.of times. its just that a guru who abuses a girl student is not equal to god in present generation culture and we do think we have equal rights as teachers.if u go a little further back in culture we used to have racism and half naked people ..so how far should we go?! just because previous generation could survive without laptops and phone u cannot force present generation to be the same
should we still use 2 stones for fire or a feather instead of pen..u can say people still survived those times! academics may be the most imp ting but there are a lot more things which make college life an experience of lifetime. the other technical and cultural activities in college which is also equally important learning experience and a gud ambience. and the corruption that is going on within management is well know fact..we know how and whose pockets are getting fatter..nd no scam can go uncaught for a long time...
forgot to add in previous post .iam mec passout who studied during changing era ie frm joythi john to suresh changing era and now i know why culture and education is important. and change from mec under a cultured, sensible educated man to looser who fights ,abuses shouts at students was learning experience on how to be and how not to be when u r at administration level.
i am a former teacher of MEC who happened to hear abt the recent happenings by word of mouth.right now i m teaching in another IHRD engg colege.i felt the positive change in attitude of students towards teachers after coming here.students who complain abt the lack of facilities at mec should see how students at a college like mine are coping without the five-star comparable facilities that u guys at mec enjoy.they do treat all the teachers ,be it a regular or guest faculty with respect only.maybe they come from backgrounds not as advanced as the mecians ,in all respects.when i came here i was astonished to find students gaping with open mouth, when i asked them whether u wud be using ur own laptop or thumbdrive to present their seminar.this was in 2007 when i came from mec where my students were using these gadgets like playthings.maybe they cudnt afford to hav such luxuries or simply they were yet to hear ant these.later i got adjusted to the atmosphere here where the students looked at u as a guru only.i do admit there might be a few or a dozen stray ones but them too u cud bring to see the point with open talk.these guys they do know now that it is better to do anything with proper permission and sanction and they r not complaining abt it.they know that they wont be denied permission unnecessarily.
language used by mecians are crossing the limits i regret.i feel that students r not to judge a teacher who in any case is imparting knowledge to u.but yes noone is 100% perfect.
so before complaining abt the minor drawbacks and negatives at mec shudnt u give a thought to other students who are toiling hard with limited facilities which range nowhere near those at mec ,but still manage to come out with flying colours?
I am an alumni of MEC from one of the initial batches. Our first Principal Dr. Sukulal had a dream of making MEC another IIT and am really sad to hear that the quality of teachers have not yet improved (at least a majority of them, as quoted and vouched here by different people) ...
Most of the companies that employ xmecians, are really happy with their all round performance in general. They also look forward to hire more students from mec. As time progresses, the quality of students from the college should keep on improving, and that too at a very drastic pace, otherwise we will fall back with the level of competition from other institutions.
Many a times I have thought that the self-learning that we were forced to in mec - for various reasons - is the reason for our success in general. The role of teachers are really advisors, teaching the basics correctly & in deep and further invoking student's interest in the subject and so on.. I still remember some of my teachers in college for this like Devassia sir, Rekha miss, Rajesh Mohan sir etc..
To do efficient self-learning, access to tools, journals, internet and compute resources are a must in this era. Textbooks are essential - but that is not the end of studies, right. Keeping this in mind and also considering that many of the premier institutions in India promote laptop usage in classes (some even give them free to students), I do not understand why the administrators and teachers insist upon "permission" for its usage. If you have them use it, even during the classes to take notes - shouldn't that be the rule? You are also saving on a lot of paper & trees in the process - an environment friendly initiative from MEC!
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Aren't students of engineering mature enough to know what they should be doing in the interest of their own future - and shouldn't they be self-motivated? Shouldn't teachers be enabling them to be mature people capable of handling & solving any issue - technical or otherwise - rather than acting as guardians who keeps tab on what they are doing.... Teachers, please do not degrade to a peeping tom level - mobile stealing and checking students inbox.
I do not understand why many of the senior folks here including parents and teachers ask the students to compare them/mec to facilities in other colleges and be happy about what you have - don't protest - don't raise issues... etc. While it is one part to follow Gandhiji's advice on this (look at people not as fortunate as you and be happy with what you have), the other part is really about excellence. Students are in mec to excel in everything that they are doing - be it course work, the tech/arts festivals or taking linux classes. They are paving the way to make mec an excellent centre of education/research. Why don't the staff and students support them in enabling this & take part in these activities together with them rather than really going after them with "permissions", mobile snatching etc...
About the language that the students have been using here - Should we not understand their frustration on how they are treated. Also, considering that this is a public blog and the posts are mostly anonymous from their side, aren't the voices reasonable? Why don't you understand that their crusade is to bring things to the right track and not to take revenge etc... They make it very clear in their posts. Also teachers/principal, it is your duty to earn respect - don't demand it! If most of the students have a similar opinion about some teachers/principal, isn't it time to introspect on what you are doing? - rather than complaining about their language ?
Students, while all the concerns that you have raised here might be reasonable, do understand that teachers & administrators also work under guidance of their supervisors and have their own limitations. After all there is nothing called transparency in reality - everything would not be talked about - especially aloud - people do not have the time & need for that. Also, do understand that we do not live in an ideal world. And mind you, environment in some of the companies that you will work for later in life - might be even worse, and there would be no way that accepting that and moving forward. I am not discouraging you or suggesting that you shouldn't be raising these concerns, but that is the reality... So, do take these experiences as a dry run for all your ventures for the future...
All the best for your studies...
@ previous anonymous : great comment!!
The number of comments are increasing here day by day. I am wondering why the smokey has not spoken a word yet.!! Enough posting comments and shouting here.
Its high time to hold a meeting with the officials, either the students should organize and meet them or they have to hold a meeting.
with all due respect sir (from the other ihrd college),
ever seen a principal smoking in front of students like he doesnt care.and is at the verge of blabbering foul words through the "public address"ing system (which he somehow has managed to suppress so far).I believe and truly hope that you dont have such a "fellow"(haha) in ur college.and speaking of positive attitude,it comes after 'cultural' integrity,both in dictionary and life
At a meeting I attended today , smokey when asked ,if he had contacts with the industry , said " We in the academia have no contact with anyone in the industry , the only people we know are the people we buy our equipments from "
Is this acceptable from a person who heads an engineering college of repute ? This clearly underscores his incompetence.
To the teacher who is now teaching at the other IHRD college..
Sir,
You think laptops and USB sticks are luxuries?? :D.. cant help laughing.. never expected such words from a person, above all, a teacher, that too someone living in this century.. People @ MEC use them like playthings coz they know wat those r for, they know how to use them, and that is because MECians are constantly updated with wat is happening all around, technological advancements, unlike those who jus keep on reading and reading the prescribed texts.. :P..
( defntly reading texts are needed, but jus reading the texts wont make someone a good engineer )..
What I said above is the reason why my college is among top 50 colleges in India, and none other IHRD colleges are in that list, dont forget that.. ;)
You say students at some colleges are toiling hard with all the limitations surrounding them, not even raising a voice against that.. I will put the above sentence as a single phrase "Utter foolishness"..
Language, yeah, me too feel many comments use language that is too much.. This can even negatively impact our college's reputation, depends on where this post comes when googled for our college.. So admin also take care to filter comments..
But anyway, blogger has to be appreciated for bringing out issues.. But be focused, dont lose control and say stuff like wat is bein said in many of these comments, filter unwanted comments ..
And one last thought.. Getting permission for laps and all mainly happens coz of IHRD rules. Modifyin that and all will need open discussions in college with teachers and all, thallukoodan alla, with a positive aim, so that both teachers and students are benefited alike..
Lets hope for a bright future for our college.. A college which will move into the top 10 colleges in India, from the Top 50 status as of now..
All the best.. :)
We miss Jyothi John
We love Jyothi John ...
@teachers who ve posted above..
Y comparing mec with other ihrd colleges alone. the reason for us to join mec (after securin such good ranks) is for the goods here. But r v gettin what we deserve?
im sure that the students at mec can be comapred on par with the studetns at nit or cet..
Sir just tell us what crime had Jyothi John sir committed for him to be thrown out? What good has our 'great' Principal done for the college, students; except puttin up gates, walls all over? I still wonder y he put gate for college ground? God knows how much he pocketed..
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sir,
also can u point out what d placement initiatives the teachers at mec ve done? how abt the 'great' one? Hope u still remember the way he great fully welcomed CTS during placement drive of 2004-08 batch? Compare it with what OUR Jyothi John sir had done to our seniors.. No wonder he is getting such a big respect..
Its 135 comments on the issue and we are still fighting over stupid language issue when the moderator has deleted most of the offensive comments. I think the so called parents and teachers commenting here with "concern" dint notice that.
And the part about asking us to be content with what we have, I have a point to make. For your kind information dear parents and teacher with due respect, none i mean none of the college events be it Arts,sports,EXcel are run by the staff here (except a handful few). Its the students. I forgot abt our PC. so we have really dedicated students working their ass out day and night for no personal gain whatsover. you just ask them why they do so much and they reply "Da its for OUR college right...alle? "
that is the spirit these students have. Esp the PC guys. so much dedication goes into the success we have achieved till now (Ranking 28). so what is wrong in dreaming of achieving more? what is wrong in dreaming of excelling in par with the NITs if not the IITs. what is wrong in dreaming for a little more freedom coz without freedom you cant "Dream". do you get this tiny piece of logic??
Its true that there are pitfalls from our side too. but i ask why do you people keep poking your nose in evry damn thing that we do?U ppl never did that previosly and then y now?our college turned out well before all these restrictions too right? Mint ranking 28..remember? then y now?
btw plz stop comments abt the language there is lot of improvement in that.(once we know somethin is wrong we dont do it )
**FakeMECian**
If you think that the teachers have no role in the college getting UMint ranking of 28, then so be it. It is funny to note that this has been achieved when the same people as now were the administrators. About some 5 years back what was the pass percentage of the college in the final year? pls check the records and you will see that it was around 52 % and see the records now. the teachers have a role in the college. Even placements. Except that the teachers do not get on the roof and gloat about it. It is no secret that many top rung companies , INTEL for example, do take faculty feedback for recruitment. Many students have benefitted too. There are students who are helped financially by many teachers. They do not advertise it before anyone. How many of you students have even thought about and done something for your fellow students who cant afford two square meals? You might say it is not your responsibility. So please dont say that teachers do not do their little bit.If you want confirmation you can talk to some who have been placed in some elite companies among your seniors. Many are also aware of the philanthropic actions from the teachers' side. All the teachers teach according to the best of their ability, some may deliver better than others. The teachers will continue to do so, irrespective of what you say in this blog. You represent only a miniscule minority of the students, who are affluent enough and arrogant through and through to abuse the entire teaching community. There are some issues, no doubt. Now about the mobile phones. As long as the Govt. ban continues, we cannot permit its INJUDICIOUS use in the campus. If you have problems with that, try to get the govt. order revoked. There is no ban on laptops in the campus. It is really funny. Students will not definitely be allowed to watch movies in the class, whatever you write here. Some of the answers have already been givn by Bijumon Sir in his earlier posts. I really feel nauseated by the insinuations of corruption at the college. What is the proof? There is no ban on laptops in the class / campus if it is put to proper use.
bye.
reg govt ban on mobile..
for ur kind info sir,
there is a ban on d usage of camera mobile phones inside campus. Its true. But does d govt order give permission for teachers to use d same?
I still remember how one of our senior was insulted in public by hon pricipal before every1 when he pointed out the same?
The teachers are not prohbited from using mobile phones as per the govt. order, as far as I have seen it. Nor does the CUSAT. If u have info the contrary pls post it.
why adhere strictly to the laws in the mobile and laptop issue, i am asking. many other laws much more important are already there, ignored. either obey all laws stop barking at us students. waht students need is support for studiesa, co and extra curricular activities at college, along with a good atmosphere. when authorities cant provide it, and they only look students down, such protests will always be there.
Dont be afraid. react against the bad.
sir, can u point out which circular/notice of university or government allows teachers to use camera mobile phone inside campus?
To Harisankar A
when i said laptops and thumbdrives are luxury i meant it, bcoz i still understand they r dreams for many students here ,since i very well know their financial backgrouynds.there r still very few students here who can afford to have a laptop.i know u were the best student last year and do not underestimate ur talent.all credits r due to u for ur achievements.
so u do admit that mec is technically competent?who do u think ( eventhough only a fraction)share the credit for that?ur teachers ,maybe the pioneers in this college who cud produce such brilliant outputs i m sure.ur college is among the top 50 only bcos of the initial name it had right frm its inception.another factor is the prime location.
but keeping mum is not utter foolishness as u think.they do protest.but the language and the modes they use is much more civilised,that s my experience.derogatory words donot justify ur actions like sending sms in class,watching movie on laptop in the class.what wud u think any sensible and responsible person like a principal do?congratulate them?those actions fm the part of students triggered this whole thing,right?
getting permission for doing anything is customary anywhere.that is meant to help u guys only so that u dont jump into any pblms later.
i do wish ur college to remain top always,but i want mine too to reach somewhere near ,under the leadership of someone who can be firm at the same time earn respect.
now to reveal my identity i wud give a clue.i happen to be the wife of ur favourite teacher at mec.
thats all man.
even nits allow students to use mobile phone..(judiciousyl)
www.nitc.ac.in/nitc/academic/Students_code_9th_Octo_07.pdf
Section 6, Point 5
Sir i welcome ur comments on d same..
thats more than a clue maam..
Mam,
I never said that teachers do not share the credit. There are very good teachers in our college, and everyone will agree to that.. and they hav done many things for students, even help in placements, helpin poor students and stuff. I know that.
Our college has reached some level, then why not improve?? Compete with colleges with better status?? For that we need to improve on all fronts..
As far as I know, most students complain about the way our principal behaves, even tho I haven't encountered such an occasion myself..
What I think is there must be an open discussion in the college, between teachers and students.. On issues and stuffs.. Just commenting anonymously and teachers commenting back wont help..
This blog, I think has already served the purpose by gettin everyone's attention to wat studs hav to say.. Now we need actual discussions.. and more important, there need to be RESULTS..
Good luck.. :)
the key is the word judiciously. that is what was I posted earlier.
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ther isnt nething left for ne1 say.and i guess its time to stop typing comments and fighting it out.@ fakemecian, u did a gr8 job..coz..this jus shows the frustration f the students.the abusive language they use is purely coz f their frustration..
neways..being an xmecian, i know how mec was used to b..n i cant even think f the current situation. smokey( nice name tho' :D ) n co, hav used their minds here..coz, we n the current final yrs are the last batches to really know wat mec was like earlier..and now he can put pressure on u juniors, just to show his power!
about this need of laps n mobiles in campus..i m nt gonna say nething..coz.everyone above has pointed out different facts tht the teachers need to admit..tht they r necessary.. BUT..they wont do it.. simply coz..they wont.!
and about all the teachers whu r cmparing mec with other colleges and telling mecians to b contented with wat they hav.. am really sorry to say but u guys hav zero logic..! i mean..this is a competitive world and everyones aiming to get higher. and mec has been constantly succeeding in it..geting into greater ranks among other colleges..am sorry tht ur colleges don hav as much facilities.
and bout the mobile raid n all..grow up teachers..not only coz..u guys stole form students bag..but bcoz u guys r brave enuff to admit tht wat u did was right..!! GROW UP..seriously..!! n bout ban f mob fones.. cant teachers or ne1 other than the students in colg take inappropriate fotos as u mentioned.? if u ban it..ban it cmpltelty..
and ther r other things tht smokey brings in to just show his power..like..dont sit on tht ring @ d college entrance..dont sit on steps.. i mean..these arent big things i know..but..wat u possibily lose or..wat do u gain wen u implement such laws.
oh..i cud go all day long writing bout this..
once wen mec was under consideration for accreditation n all..the accreditation team had come n everyone knows wat they had askd many students.." dont u guys hav labs n librarys open at nite ?? coz..in big coleges..like niit they hav facilities like tht.." but whu cares bout students in mec. huh
** and about the abusive language thing ** i donno hw many ppl know this..during arts 08, ther was fight involving cusat and mec faculty..captained by smokey.. i still remmber the sentence he said to one f the fellow teachers..aftr they closed the gate to d cusats.. "nammaloda ************ erakkunnathu " am really sorry i cant elaborate this..but this is no false story...trust me.! neways..as some1 mentioned..guys lets dont use abusinve languages in d blog..coz..teachers n all others are pointing out only that..they arent responding to nething else..
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wat does smokey want form mecians..?? he doesnt allow to conduct arts , sports , excel.. wats wrong with this guy.. i mean..students hav to run around to get permission to conduct events.!! excel n all..trust me guys..is like..a nettipattam for mec.. n tht guy doesnt know wats excels all bout..!! tht defines mec..in one way or the other..hav u heard f any famous tech fest from cet..?? no..!! one more thing..being a head of instituion,, being a principal..hav u seen smokey in any progms in excel..any events..??? does he even know the names of any events in excel..??? compare tht wit jyothi john sir...he used to come around to each stall f classes..to enquire abt their projects..they hav put up..!! tht is bcoz he showed real concern ..!! n this guys.. want to screw up everything..!!
wat does smokey want from mecians..?? jailing them for 4 yrs..n producing machines..?? robots..?? is this some kinda hitler rule or somthing..?? wat does he mean wen says its his college..has he done nething gud for the college..??? does he know to speak english..?? does he know how to behave.. calling n addresssing boys n gals..as "da" "di" "nee"..wats d point smokey..?? wats d fuzz bout..??? n trust me..aftr this guy has come..academic records..n placement has come down..take the statisitcs if u dont believe..!!
colege life is the best 4 yrs in life one student aims to enjoy in life..form school itself..and then ther comes smokey..to deprive them of their best days in life..!! wat wud u lose smokey if u give freedom to ppl... i tell u..u wil gain something.. u wil gain some respect..!!! grow up smokey..grow up..!!
n mecians..put down ur pen..its time to raise ur voice..!! gather up..protest.. n trust me.. do it together..feel it everyone..coz..he knows how to break u guys..!!he mite cal up ur parents n tel them ur child is in strike n all.. tht wil make them tense.. n u wil b in trouble.. tht kinda things..!! simple solutions..inform ur parents in advance.. about the situation in colg..tht wont do much harm i guess....dont back out students..be together till the last moment..untill u break..or they break..!! stand together.. bring bak life in mec...
@smokey..
"get well soon..maamu.."
Smokey had said that he only wanted to make this college a better one, the students are against all his actions, he just wants to make the college an even better place.
Kindly Smokey, we have had enough of you trying to make us better. Just make some other college better now. Yeah, as you often say, you will find more adorable spine-bent minions somewhere else.
And, I think Smokey himself or one of his trusted aides has commented as "Anonymous" here. The comment on Feb 9, 2010 at 5:29.
Somebody has translated his stupid malayalam ramblings into decent English. But even a language change has failed to hide the arrogance and show off that he believes he commands. Need more clue. "Where is the proof ?" (Towards the end of the comment). That is one of Smokey's favorite tactics :P
On the plus side, the rate at which he smokes, I personally believe he will soon be "bringing discipline and order" to the nether worlds.
Get well maamu :P
If you are a former student, then you are the likes that a teacher would want to forget as soon as possible.
first of all,i m a 2008passout, so i know the differences in JJ n smokey regimes
i m not goin to list all the shortcomings of smokey,coz by nw anyone who knows smethng bout MEC will have a clear idea, n lets face it the list is huge :)
and i m not goin to focus on mobile ban becoz ,no matter what we xmecians post on the web, the High Court of Kerala's order is binding on all of us(though i will say that the implementation of the law in this case was a violation of fundamental rights).
but a laptop ban is altogether another thing.
agreed, the guy was using lappy on college premises, but frm wat i read, it was during a free hour. what people do or do not with their own property(esp, since thre is no court order banning laptops frm colleges, that i know of) in their free time shud be of no concern to smokey or his lackeys. i hav read countless rebuttals frm teachers in these comments bout facilities being offered to students for free.
but what good are they if students are not allowed to access them in the most free n red-tape free manner? n maybe they can hide behind wordplay like permission/approval letters, but the fact of the matter is this move IS meant to discourage students frm using their laptops.
@the concerned parent, no offense,if after reading through all this, ur primary concern is offensive language by some kid in a digital media,it speaks volumes about your level of attention.bad language is bad language, no justifications. but u r plainly ignoring the root cause.
@x-mec teacher currently at another ihrd college
sufferings of another is no reason to hold your self back.nor shud it be used to silence freethinking with guilt.u think all xmecians are "panachaakks"? there mst be hundreds of people who passed mec without these thumbdrives n laptops.
@teachers
basicaly, all you are saying is, students shud be greatful, n not ask for too much, coz they r just a bunch of silly kids who dont know whats best for them. forced morality will only lead to revolts, nothing more nothing less.instead of forcing kids to obey laws, smokey shud set an example by following them(mst be the biggest day dream of them all:-))
@mr.Khan, well said!
get well soon, maaamu!
@others
keep this blog n its discussions alive. spread the word thru any media, be it orkut,fb,twitter,mail,sms whatever.what the fakemecian started by this blog can only conclude when enuff people know about this, n it can't be ignored anymore.
Balu
I only hope that I have not had the misfortune of teaching this so called Mr M A Khan.
Dr. Vinu Thomas.
@ Dr Vinu Thomas
I only hope that we wont have the misfortune of being pushed around to satify the ego of this so called "Smokey" in future.
Watz wrong with this guy "smokey", whom all despise ? Anyone have a clue ?
exactly as one of the teachers pointed out , companies also take into account the faculty factor when they chose to visit a campus to recruit , A teacher of mine interacted with officials from a company "x" which recruited 46 plp from our campus , when asked why , they replied they maintain a matrix on which they rate a campus , one of the factors was faculty input , on which we were rated really low . Our college is not filled with Lars Onsager 's , we have very few teachers who live up to the needs & know their act well.
As for philanthropy you are trying to "fix" the ineptitude & inefficiency in the Grand system rather than trying to correct it. Why cant it be a transparent scholarship scheme ?? When you feed of the spoils of evil , you will want to cleanse your soul. Even "Bill Gates" is into philanthropy these days , wasnt he a very fair man ??
If there is a GO then why cant it be shared with us , why not a notice on the notice board. Please sir/mam post it .
@ any teacher / Smokey
Why is it that when students in other govt colleges lyk GEC , CET , NIT-c etc , dont hav to wear unifroms ,we are forced to ? ?
We should probably have a colored protest , where evry student turns up in class in a color dress. We should attend classes , in color dress.
Technopreneur is the adjudged to be the best Yi net programme. The credit to "the quality" of this annual event belongs to the students who have worked all through. Did you witness the professionalism in the management of the event last year??
Is their any acknowledgement for the students who worked to bring in TEDxMEC in the most professional way??
Where do you think we get sponsors to hold events like Technopreneur, Excel, Illuminati?? and El Juego?? Is there any consideration to those poor fellows who trade their precious attendance to sell MEC???
What about the people who worked for our University Arts (we bagged first place!!), Deja VU?? Why are we doing this?? Respect to MEC??
We are one among the first colleges in Kerala to have 24/7 connectivity. Why do we need this, if there is a ban on using laptops in the first place??
Now we need permissions to get permissions. Permission to open that door...Permission to raise right hand!!
Have you ever taken a walk to witness atleast one talk in Technopreneur?? Atleast one project done by a student of MEC??
What more has the poor MECian got other than hurls of insult to his breed!!
We need our REAL MEC encouraging its students to develop in every aspect, to a real individual, a true personality. We don't need a person who has no views on anything...not robots...not geeks with just bookish knowledge.
Look at our juniors now. They have no expression on their face. Just robots with a tag around their neck (they are made to wear their id cards!!). Don't they have an identity?? Despite having a collar around their necks...we don't know who they are. The everlasting bond of MEC is gone.
The MEC where every individual knew the other, The MEC where cultural events brought in a crowd of students.
What is this MEC that our ancestors talk about??
@Teacher (who replied to FakeMECian)
dear sir/maam
I never said teachers are not responsible for the position our college has reached now. I know and i respect those teachers who also strive for the betterment of the college. What i said about was freedom. A little more freedom which we dream of. We have a lot of ideas which we want to implement. after all you can expect a lot of ideas from a community of students who are among the top in the state. And college life as one of the X-mecians i contacted said is a free platform whr we could implement the ideas we hav as there is no fear of losses if we go wrong.
also in the comment i gave the credit and respect to the staff who are always with us for all events, but i gave a little more credit to the students. so kindly dont mislead the discussion. I dint talk abt bad teachers..so please understand the comment properly and respond.
and also people its high time we stop talkin abt the "language" used as the vulgarity is removed.good to find the comments are more proffesional now and less frustration removers...
**FakeMECian**
"When you feed of the spoils of evil" - what exactly do you mean? Are you accusing the teachers of graft? That is a bit harsh. And what about the cleansing of souls that you mention? probably after all these insults, you could think of that yourselves. What is about the infy thing? what are this faculty input parameters in their matrix? if there is really one why are we being not informed by the concerned people? by the way recruitment teams in INTEL and some other companies had personally asked for referrals which we had gladly given, for the past two three years. plse check with seniors placed there. if there is really a faculty input parameter for infy, we would gladly give if we are asked. i had posted my info about mobiles and laptops in a previous post ( forgot to add my name) , and look at wht Mr Khan has posted in reply. I can talk to any reasonable person, but not to one who wishes that his teacher reaches the "nether world" soon as he has posted. I cant respond to such a sicko, my conscience will not allow me to. if i find a civil post and is within my ambit to respond, i will def. do it when i have the time. but till then i will stay away.
Dr. Vinu Thomas.
after going through the post and comments, I could not stop myself from printing the following comments:
1. MEC is better than all other engineering colleges’ under IHRD
2. The colourful positioning of MEC is due to effort of previous teachers and principals.
3. The present glittering status of MEC is mainly due to the TEQIP fund
4. The present principal has no role in it as he and his union was actually against TEQIP program. They even managed to conduct strikes and dharnas against the TEQIP program when MEC wand inducted into TEQIP.
6. No one, including the faculty who commented against this posting are not even said a single word to protect the smoked Smokey.
One word to the ex-faculty-mec Maam, Hope we can exchange our principals and let your college grow with smokey's efficient administrative techniques and excellent academic capability.
Bye for now
@ all mecians
how long will we keep on blogging? im sure it has served its purpose. Nw its high-time for us to organise some action rather than sittin b4 ur pc n typing. these teachers r nt gng to change.
pazhamakar parayunnathu poole,'patti yude vaal......."
lets put a board b4 college or even advertise online..
"Principal for sale!! 50% off.."
I am one of the 2008 pass out who can imagine the current situation. With full respect to the teacher community let me put what i feel that need to be communicated,
@Bunking Class
Do any one think that a student should be forcefully asked to sit in a class? Freedom should be given to the student himself to decide whether or not to attend the class. If a student feels he can manage the subject and is capable of utilizing the time in some constructive work he should be allowed to do that. Students had this freedom when JOJO was the principal but not when smoky came. Teachers should advice students but not compel them to sit in the class.
@Conducting Events
I understand the pain of the students trying to organize an event. I had a personal experience of trying to get approval from smoky to conduct an event in the college. This was not the case when JOJO was the principal.
@Participating In TechFest
I don't understand why he is not allowing the mecians to go for tech fests...????
@Rules-Stupid Rules
Smoky introduces some interesting stupid rules once he stepped into MEC,
1)Don't sit on top of the chair
2)Don't sit on outside ring
3)Don't sit in the steps
4)Don't stand as gangs outside the college
....
Interesting rules right ? i don't know whether he added some more interesting rules to this list....but surely these are some of those stupid rules which really made the student community turn against him. Biju/Vinu sir do we actually need to go with these rules in our college. Earlier when JOJO was there we used to consider college as an extension of our home, whether this is the situation now ????????? If not who is responsible???????
@Madam
Yea it is indeed true that many of the other colleges under IHRD don't have necessary facilities but please understand that students of mec opted the college because of its reputation & facilities all mecians deserve this facility and i am not able to understand why students can't demand for more facility simply because students in other colleges are not able to ...........
@Watching Movie
From the post it is clear that the student was watching movie in the laptop during the free period. I don't think this is a big crime if yes dear teachers please let me know why.
@Using mobile phone
It was wrong from the side of students to use his mobile phone in the class i agree but before beginning to raid for mobile phones you should have informed the student community to not to bring the mobile phones to college with adequate reasons(including govt orders if any). Personally i have not seen anyone in our college using mobile phones for criminal ideas.
@Vinu Sir.
Respected sir, do you think that the entire comments were architectured/written by two or three individuals i don't think so. Please think on this matter. Instead of encouraging students to continue blogging(its growing in popularity and many are reading. many xmecians are looking through the developments of this blog day by day) is it not possible to discuss this matter directly in the college auditorium. If you can take the upper hand since you have gone through the entire comments it will be of great help to student community.....
by
XMECIAN-2008
Dear Biju-sir,
You said:
"You are comparing our respected principal with lot of other govt. college principals who are not bothering about what is happening in their campus"
I think you missed a point here. Students are just trying to compare our current principal with our ex-principals and other teachers like you, vinu-sir etc. Do you think, you will see the same kind of response if some mad student writes a blog against any of our other principals or teachers like you( Nair sir, KSM, Jyothi-John sir, Devasya sir, etc ) ? You have to agree the fact that there is something wrong with our principal here. You are just loosing your credibility supporting someone who has the worst reputation from student community.
I am glad that Mr.Smoky wasn't principal for Stanford University. Otherwise, he would have jailed Mr.Steve Jobs, who was a frequent bunker. Google should thank him, and we too because Blogspot belongs to Google - where we will write all these blogs if Mr:Smoky had put Steve Jobs behind the bars.
BTW, Smoky will not know who is Steve Jobs and where is Stanford. Isn't it the real problem of MEC.
How will a technical institution grow and innovate unless a technically proficient person heads and leads it ?
You can never run a College where ideas run freely as another bureaucratic institution. As has been pointed out repeatedly in many of the comments, freedom gives the platform for the student community to think openly and freely.
Ours is the only college where some sort of events happen almost weekly; be it some seminars, workshops or classes, the college is always buzzing around some activity. In midst of such a schedule, how can one expect the co-ords to get sign/permission from three or four heads, when they are seen very rarely and take even lesser interest in such events ?
The brand name that our college has among the academic circle is unimaginable. It is the product of the untiring enthusiasm and hardwork of students and supportive teachers.
When student - staff interaction is restricted to arguments and counter arguments(like some Parlimentary meetings :P), how will it generate the co-operation and mutual respect that the good old days had ?
Our Ex-principals were able to run the college without locking the gates. Other engineering colleges also do the same.
What really happened when Smoky came into power. Morale of 1000 students crashed in one day ?
What's the real problem here ?
Is it the students mis-using laptop/mobile or our principal mis-using his power ?
Even-if one or two students mis-use their phones or laptops, why should we ban it for the entire student community.
In our state, at least 5 people die in car accidents iper day. So, should we ban the cars too ?
One of the respected teachers had asked a question like below in one of the comments:
"When the principal came and raided the hostel, he found a guy watching porn sites in his PC, so what should the principal do ? congartulate him or watch it alongwith him ???"
Government has issued an order today which states:
"Govt can't ban porn web sites for obscenity".
Check today(11 Feb)'s Times of India for Detailed Story
Who the hell is Mr.Smoky to check what is there inside someone's personal PC ? Morale police ? This is India boss, not Saudi Arabia.
" One serious issue i noticed is the proper heirarchy is not maintained in our college administration. People wihtout any professional education experience can't understand the pulse of an Engineering college " - "MEC final yr".
This is something that is extremely deplorable and something to be ashamed of. What right do these people have to sit alongside Smokey and laugh at people as if they are "Ruling" the place themselves?? Its like the really qualified, actual teachers (a term that can rarely be used with reference to our faculty) were dumbasses to work so hard to get their degrees and Doctorates!! Whats the whole sense of justice here?? Dosn't it make you wanna rip your own arm off teachers ?? Some of the teachers have chosen not to associate themselves with these "gangs"--kudos to them. But im sure Smokey is waiting to give them some trouble. The ^*^*&Ing system is politically poisoned and corrupted and unless these sort of Bull%&*@ is removed from it.. people will always feel the sense of injustice and will not put in their best in anything related to our college..personally know how it feels. If any of the faculty who posted here (both of whom fall in the Teachers category) would like to share their views about this?? I am sure lots of people would like to know ... DONT YOU FEEL THE INJUSTICE IN IT ???
@Vinu thomas sir..
about the "nether world" thing.. tht wasnt even my post..! :D neways..gud tht u teachers are updated with the blog contents.. but apart from reading the contents.. cant u teachers realise the frustration of students in mec.. even we xmecians are frustrated.. !!
u r one of the teachers tht we all had respect for.. and if any of my contents in the post hav hurt u.. appologies for tht...!! but..sir,, jus go back to ur past.. u were also once a student.. in collge.. do u think..u cud hav adjusted with this situation in colege.. jailing with no freedom at all.. not even freedom of thought..!! thts a mental stress.. tht can bring down students..tht can tear them apart..!!
all the comments in this blog jus reflects the frustration f mecians.. cant u teachers show some humanity to them..??
@smokey
"get well soon.. maamu"
Teachers and Princi, Ever read this poem by a Tagore.... "Mind Without Fear"
Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high;
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow domestic walls;
Where words come out from the depth of truth;
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward by thee into ever-widening thought and action---
Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake....
Time to substitute "my country" by "by alma matter"!!!
Isn't it time to start talking about what can be done to change this situation? All, start thinking positive & start talking of ways to resolve the issues...
I wonder with all these comments and discussions how tensed & negative-energy filled would the campus be currently!!
I dont blame our Principal . What else he can do ?
If you are 100% incompetent technically, and you don't know the basics of administration skills, what else you will do if you were become the principal of MEC. The only way to make your presence feel in the college is through these kind of dirty fudal techniques.
I dont blame him, I just feel sorry about him,. Get well soon Mr.Smoky.
Hi Mr, Princy,
You are not realizing one thing., You are NO more the principal of Kaloor technical high-school. You are the principal of MEC, a top rated engg. college in the country. There is a change required in the way you manage a school and an engg. college. You don't need to do learn rocket science to understand this. Just see what our ex-principals did. I am an X-mecian who got passed out 10 years before. I haven't seen this kind of a protest from anyone before in the history of our college.
i think i owe an apology to M A Khan. sorry.
I am an X-mecian from last decade and I am a parent too. So, I think I deserve the (so called) maturity status to post a serious comment in this blog:
BTW, I want to be officially anonymous, I still visit MEC to hire many MEC-ians for my company, so I want to be politically safe for the sake of my company. And, more than 50% of my team member are X-MECians, not something any other MNC can claim. I am sure Mr.PRSK will recognize me, that is all what I want :-)
I was able to anticipate this failure of Mr.P.R.SK, 12 years back when he joined MEC as an Asst: professor in Electronics Dept. But, I never expected that to be this pathetic. Dear sir, you have made a history in MEC - And you still feel that our college got high rating in the country because of you.
I am proud to say that my team, consisting of mostly MEC-ians, is been rated the best team in the company among our 15+ centers around the globe. Our guys compete with alumni's from UC Berkley, Stanford and MITs. It is quite embarrassing for us when our colleagues talk about their open books exams and freedom for thinking they get in these institutions. Their institutions encourage electronic students to migrate to the latest innovations in the industry like write-pads/Kindles/iPads to avoid conventional textbooks and notebooks. Why do you still need permission to bring laptops in the college - Don't you still get the sense that Text-books and Note-books are getting out-dated in the industry and they will disappear from colleges in next 10-15 years. If you cannot foresee this revolution happening in the electronic industry, how will you teach "Basic Electronics" ?
When I visited my HQ last month, my senior colleague told me about Jan.M.Rabaey, who was his project guide in UC-Berkley during his phD program(yes, the same Rabaey who wrote the book "Digital Integrated Circuits"). Incidentally, I remembered you, who was MY project guide, back in 1999 . I still remember the question you asked me when I told you that I am planning to do a project in VHDL. Your response was:
"Last week, you said you want to do your project in NPOL. This week you are coming and saying that you want to do your project in VHDL. This is unacceptable".
I hope, in last 12 years you got a chance(from students) to learn the difference between NPOL and VHDL. If not, ask any 1st semester students. I really feel that you need to re-start from basics. From the very basics...
Signing off.. I have lot of other important things to do for my company who is feeding my family. I just thought, I wont be doing justice to my college if I don't say this here.
@vinu sir
Indeed sir , I am accusing the teachers of graft. I know the gravity of my accusation , since pics of documents supporting the same have been posted above , i think the onus is now on the teachers / administration to either deny it or set up a panel to look into the allegation , the silence till now speaks volumes.This needs to be clarified at the earliest.
" I believe what I see"
hahha...vry funny..cant stop laughing---
"Last week, you said you want to do your project in NPOL. This week you are coming and saying that you want to do your project in VHDL. This is unacceptable".
its shame on u sir(smokey)
---new mecian..
"thinking of a situation when actor 'dilip' ask for a gun in the movie 'CID moosa' replying police officer told yea he can sanction him the gun but he should never use it......:-)"
-- this is something that is happening in our college....
@vinu sir,
sir there are lot of teachers here in our college whom we respect a lot...urself and rajesh sir being a few. biju sir..u have not taught me but i have heard so much abt u from my seniors and how much they respect you. like u all there are lot of other teachers also whom we respect for their ability as teachers and for their compassion for students. There also are teachers who ain't tht great and sometimes are the kind who only wants to give trouble to students. we do not ever say too foul about them or use bad language to describe them to our mates. we do know to respect TEACHERs. BUT BUT BUT not when the person is a principal. I myself have had personal experience of the inhuman disrespectful behaviour of our principal. Also let me give another incident which was narrated to me by a non teaching staff...so take it as a fact..
Few students were caught by the security in front of our college gate for jumping over tht ring placed in front of that lawn. They were taken to the principal and their both parents called to college. The extent of foul language used by the principal was so bad that the security guy described it to me as "PACHA THERI".
What do you have to say about that.
He dissaporved of that incident so much that when i did that action he dint catch me and it was then he told that why he dint catch me.
seriously teachers please i request of you to stop supporting this principal.
seems the non teaching staff have already lost their interest in this principal..
@Smokey
Naanam ille manushya.....
ithreyum keetille.....
Ini engilum nannayikude...
Hope u wont.....
mec@ihrd.ac.in
principal@mec.ac.in
Lets inundate his inbox with mails , lets all send him the link to this blog.
So much for insulation of education from politics , the joint director of IHRD is our CM's son V A Arunkumar, apparently he was denied addmission to his phd program.
http://www.thehindu.com/2009/07/03/stories/2009070354570500.htm
I think now we all know how somebody got to be the principal of an engineering college.
i suggest mr. fakemecian and his commenters and other wellwishers of mec not to kill time just talking anonymously and start right now towards a betterr mec. i suggest we will raise our problems before the authority in the right channel for that. and also a senate meeting is to be called for, on the unsatisfied movements of the students. we will talk in an open forum, and im sure we all start react ourselves in the proper way, we can bring back the real mec life , and not fake.
So much discussions are going on here. i just wanna knw what initiatives hve the students body has taken to the current situation!!
Senate??? Class Repss??? Placement Cell??
You people are the students body or are u a bunch of boneless mass??
Who is the senate Chairman?? heloo? anybody?
-- XMecian
@ Vinu sir, Biju sir
I believe you will also agree that all this frustration and outrage has some basis to it. All of it has been bottled up for quite sometime and a platform for us to vent it was the only thing we required and fortunately someone had the intellect to sit and come out with this medium which is safe grounds for us to do so. Whatever, getting to the point, sir(s), if we students were the only people to feel such outrage then there would be some basis for you to dismiss this tide of discussions and statements made by my fellow MECians. But lemme assure you when expressed, my anguish to my parents about how "HE" is not doing justice to his position and when I showed this blog to them, they were completely able to understand me and how problematic this situation is becoming for us. Sir, I believe this is not any other XYZ college, this is MEC, 28th best college in India and the best in Kerala and we, the students should be having a basic set of standards for getting admission to this college. When will you realise that we are no longer school children? When will you realize that we are capable and are mature enough to handle ourselves properly with only, guidance from you. We dont want to be force fed which is what is happening nowadays and what we are asking is not a Herculean task.
Sir(s), think about all this from our point of view, step in our shoes and then think about all this. Not every Tom, Dick and Harry that you see in the college is a pervert, wants to watch movies in laptops, or wants to see pron movies, the least of things that a student can expect from his teacher is the trust and confidence he could get from the teachers! You are not even willing to do that! Or are you?
ഇത് വെറും ചായക്കപ്പിലെ കൊടുംകാറ്റ്, അല്ലാതെന്താ?
പക്ഷെ ആ NPOL/VHDL തമാശ വളരെ രസിച്ചു.
@ comment of the day
This is in response to the girl who has voiced her opinion in reply to Biju sir, firstly the selection of your words to voice your opinion on the after 5.30 curfew for girls in college needn't have been that forceful. I definitely agree its a curtailment of our freedom but there are issues that deserve greater attention. I understand that this is a forum wherein we discuss problems related to the response of college authorities but I would like to draw attention to how parochial Mecians oursleves are these days. Citing the 5.30 curfew as a reason, girls have been kept away from the organizing team of an event at college not by authorities but students themselves,if you are not ashamed at dancing to the whims and fancies of your seniors, why hesitate to lick the authority? It is good to learn from the experiences of seniors but not to follow their instructions blindly.
And how come you don't have a problem with the fact that for guys at MEC girls are either seen as an aid to help them with their academics, as an instrument to carry menial jobs, or as objects to be stared at by the "kozhis" of the college, but you have a problem with the 5.30 ban, be inclusive when you respond to issues and talk of issues that concern us at the root-level. I would have appreciated if you atleast mentioned why we still don't have a LH, what could be done to make the women in engineering unit of IEEE active without over blowing and sensationalizing superficial stuff.
@ the VHDL xmecian: Inspiring post. We have always wanted to know how a person who can't put a sentence in english together, got a Phd and presented so many international papers.
@ other execians: If you have similar experiences or anecdotes about smoke, do share them. We have always been curious...
That VHDL/NPOL story from Xmecian was hilarious ! LOL!!!
I work in that Xmecian's company and i am proud of my manager :-)
@Xmecians
Thank you for your concern for the college and i really appreciate it .But i can tell you one thing that what you are going through this blog is not completely true.In the blog its been said that we cannot use laptops and mobilephones in college and the teachers searching their bags and pockets for finding mobile phones is not entirely true .We, the final years ,third years and almost all of them with laptops use it without any difficulties .(But we can not use it during the class hours:he he). Everyone uses mobile phone inside the college but they are cautious .No teacher would take a mobilephone while using it ,if the reason for use is genuine. But they will surely take it from you if somebody takes photographs of charts from labs,notes ,rough record etc or sending sms in front of the teacher while he/she is in the class . I have seen the principal taking mobilephones from students while they are using it infront of the college(front means between the staircase and the porch).It is their mistake to use it carelessly.I dont want to go into that since there is a rule which bans use of mobilephones inside the college campus.We can't move against the rule . Can we ?
@nainachan
I agree with you opinion.We will immediately have a senate meeting this week.
@all the senators
guys,please discuss in your class and come prepared for a productive meeting .We will inform you the exact timing.
please note that the arguments and problems should be genuine!!!!
@all my friends at MEC
Iam the college Chairman . If anybody doesnt recognise me please come to my class 401 and express your opinions directly to me .
And a very sincere request from my side for all those who comment Please use good language and refrain from using abusive language , since more parents and staff are getting involved in this blog .
Regards,
salahudeen T.A
Senate Chairman , MEC
@ salahudeen
Please dont try to justify the unreasonable acts of the principal.
I would like to point out 2 incidents
1.) During the recently concluded arts , a student was using his mobile phone ,talking abt the stage props that he was carrying , he was walking towards the college gate , his mobile was confiscated when he was near trees where the vehicles are parked inside he campus. I witnessed this myself .
2.)One of my friend's mobile was confiscated from outside the college campus . Yes outside it , on the road at a distance from the back gate .His mobile has not yet been returned . This too was done by the principal himself.
Worth reading the following article from Stanford University web-site.
http://studentapp.stanford.edu
This article desribes the mobile phone applications developed by the University and provided to students to make their life easier. From their own words:
"At Stanford, we envision the iPhone as having a profound to break barriers in the way we provide
information and services to students...".
As far as I understand, the only reason why High-court wanted to ban the mobile phones in the campus is due to the mis-use of camera phones. If Principal's interest is genuine, why can't he encourage the students to develop a mobile app which they can use to disable the camera function when they are inside the campus and punish the students who dont use this application ?
In this blog, Students are simply questioning the real intention of Mr.principal, who violates the smoking ban from same High court almost every hour, but uses the court order as a mean to harass the students just for showing his power.
Please stop these nonsenses.
'Mata" (mother): Finding no answers in his school textbooks he initially approached his mother whom he considered most near to him. He enquired of her all the queries narrated above and after persistent questioning he was able to understand even as a child that his mother knew nothing about the queries he went to his father.
'Pita' (father): The moment he opened his mouth in the presence of his father, he was rebuked and taken to task by his father for indulging in matters beyond his age. He was advised to put more of his attention to the studies in the class. He indirectly understood that his father was also ignorant about the various subjects and instead of giving him a suitable reply gave him an unwanted piece of advice.
'Guru' (teacher): Having understood the crux of the problem that his mother and father did not have the answers to his queries he approached the class teacher whom he considered next to his parents. The class teacher on hearing the queries made one excuse or the other but was unable to give a satisfactory reply. The teacher never wanted the student to know of his incapability in giving answers to his queries. The student ultimately went to the principal and the same story was repeated. The principal was also ignorant of the subject.
Nowhere else to go... the queries existed within him
He felt so happy that as the queries melt away, they took the form of the tears that welled up in his eyes spontaneously. He was practically sobbing with happiness.
This is not the experience of this lone gentleman but many in pursuit of Spirituality face the same dilemma. Simply by going to the temple one cannot learn of the meaning of the sacred Scriptures lying in the bookshelves of the temple. One who is the knower of all need to explain the hidden meaning of the Scriptures to the mass community? And by talking of 'Daivam' we mean someone who has raised himself on the Spiritual platform much higher above the thinking of a normal Human being.
Any sage or Saint who has learned the intricate truths of the sacred Scriptures can dispel the doubts of the serious spiritual seekers. Such people are considered equivalent to 'Daiva' or 'Deva'.
No doubt the position of the mother is the highest on the physical domain. God meant it so. Why? It is only a mother who in times of need would care for the child of another. In case of 'Pita' so is not the situation. Similarly, the 'Guru' gets the next position for he is the one who grooms the child in the journey of life and is only next to 'Mata and Pita'. Whatever status a student achieves later in life... the regard for the Guru never ceases.
Discussions are going very well so far and I hope the senate has planned for a productive meeting.
Please post the meeting results here.
Going through all the responses see the below categories of people.
***MEC Staff***
Only those who have a serious concern about the college and those who are unanimously respected by all the students commented here.
@Biju sir and Vinu Sir: Agree that you provided many valid comments above. But there are some factors you didn't consider.
>>>The generation gap is becoming wider year by year. Your advice is invalid/ will not be accepted if it is made suitable for the current generation. Even a two years gap creates a communication problem. However, you can insist that you will talk in your away ,but that is not going to make a difference.
>>>@Biju Sir: You studied in govt. school in Mal medium. Even I studied in similar way. I hope those experiences won't block/misguide your way of thinking. We have to change with time or will be left behind or considered old fashioned.
>>>@Vinu Sir: Please don't get offended by silly issues like Mal accent. Retd. ISRO Chairman Madhavan Nair had a clear Mal accent in his English.
My point is that MEC's future lies in people like you Biju Sir/Vinu Sir and may be others who want to join you.
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Nobody has confidence in the Principal. I understand that lecturers are bound not to write against the Principal.(considering position and political links)
I politely request you two to attend the coming Senate meeting and encourage students to raise their voice fearlessly and draw some positive conclusions/actions.
Where are the other lecturers of MEC?
***Parents***
>>>There was only one parent who responded. Dear parent, profanity is not the main subject of the blog. Swearing came out of frustration and number of profane words have came down drastically. FYI please check with your son how many times he used them. You may be shocked. Now please input something constructive and help the betterment of MEC.
>>>A request to the parents of the current students: If any of you read this, please try to arrange PTA meeting. Many pvt engg colleges have highly active PTA and compulsory annual/biannual meetings.
Students, please inform your parents. There are quite a number of *influential* parents who can take the lead.
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***Teachers from Other Colleges***
>>>Stop comparing your college with MEC and asking MECians to shut up. This sounds like Indian PM asking the Citizens "Dear people, please stop eating because our brothers in Somalia are dying of hunger"
Different colleges have different standards. It doesn't mean that top colleges should stop improving just because there are many colleges far below it.
>>>If your students don't know about laptops and USB drives, please educate them. If you wish to remain in darkness, so be it.
>>>Dear teachers, my comments are not in a derogatory sense and kindly don't make a new issue out of it. Why don't you take MEC as an example and work to raise your college's standard?
Mediocrity never attains success.
***Students***
>>>Dear students, this is a good effort to raise your concerns since you don't have any other choice. The blog has already reached so many people and I believe this will definitely bring in some action. I have some requests to you while writing your comments.
1. You are in the college now and know current situations far better than XMECians and outsiders. So please think twice before posting any comment so that it will not give out any wrong notion about MEC.
2. Please put a full stop to profane language. There are enough comments showing your emotions. Emotions are no longer needed unless you want to create negative impressions.
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3. Verify the truthfulness of the information you post. Do not post rumours. For example, Principal's statement about industrial interaction and the numbers given in the Linux seminar scam. Be aware it is difficult to restore the image corrupted by bad comments.
4. Respect your teachers(excluding those have no commitment for college). Teachers get respect by respecting students. This is applicable for students also. You cannot win without their support. Have a good relationship with them especially those I mentioned at the beginning. Open up this subject with them and have a discussion.
>>>The reason I wrote the above is because my own experience reading all. Assume that I have no idea about MEC other than that it is just an engg college. If so, I will have the below opinions about college after glancing through the blog+comments
-Students are declined of maximum use of latest technology. (restrictions on laptops,IEEE etc)
-Very poor industrial interaction (Despite good interaction which is the truth)
-High restrictions on students' creativity (restrictions on XL, arts)
-Technical backwardness. (again a false impression)
-Incompetent staff (Again not universally applicable)
Here goes the concern. Many new companies are coming to MEC including those who used to go to NITs and IITs only. This blog is very likely to appear in a googling related to MEC. Suppose you send this blog link to a new company instead of Placement brochure, what could be the reaction? If the recruiter is an XMECian, there won't be much problem (Just my hope).
Otherwise this could be fatal.
There is already sufficient information for any action required. It is better to stop the online discussions.
There is a good spirit in all. Do not let it die down. Couple of senate meetings will definitely give an idea if the management wants to take any action or not. A PTA meeting will be a more powerful one.
contd...
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